say someone asked you to open your wallet and asked you where your funds came from, can you just say that you mined it? since XMR cant be trace afaik

  • NoobFromXMR@monero.townOP
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    14 days ago

    if i do that, pretend i move the mined XMR to my now NEW wallet and you ask " Show me the mining wallet that got those mining transactions.", can i Just say i dont have the mining wallet anymore coz my computer got infected so i move all my xmr to new wallet and forget the old one alltogether?> Show me the mining wallet that got those mining transactions.

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      14 days ago

      Yes you can just say that.

      1. If someone knows for a fact that you have Monero and they know the exact amount, and want to know where it came from:

        • Move them to a new wallet
        • I mined these coins a very long time ago, I do not have the mining equipment anymore
        • Also the wallet I used to mine them was on an old computer that got infected so I moved all to this new wallet
      2. If someone suspects that you have Monero but does NOT know how much:

        • Imagine you own $10k in Monero
        • Move a small amount to a wallet ($200??)
        • If authorities ask you how much you have, show them the wallet with $200.
        • Go back to scenario 1 (I got those 200 from mining a long time ago etc etc)
      3. If no one suspects that you have Monero, and for now you are “in the clear”:

        • Follow good opsec
        • Do not tell anyone that you have Monero
        • Do not exchange that Monero for fiat using KYC services. Always use something like Haveno, or use the Monero to buy prepaid cards anonymously to use in shops
        • If someone starts suspecting that you might be using Monero but does not know how much, revert to scenario 2

      Of course it is better if you avoid anyone knowing you have Monero altogether.

      Remember that you always have the option of moving them to a new wallet, say you got hacked and have no access to it.

      Of course all this depends on your country and how authorities are there. If you live in a very authoritarian area where authorities do not care about evidence and they only care that “you look guilty”, nothing will save you. If you live in a country where you must go to court and be proven guilty, I think with Monero its pretty easy to do any of those steps and cover your ass.

      But as always, try to not be discovered using Monero in the first place