The turnout in the states says a lot. no one is happy. Even trump lost total votes; the Dems failed the mobilize their vote… which screams of people not thinking anything will change no matter what vote they place. It is a mirror for what is going on up here… In all likelihood the libs are out and its the cost of living and scarce jobs to blame for it. If they actually wanted to win the next election, they have already shown they could change things with a stroke of a pen and DON’T.
With only a 60% turnout, obviously they really don’t care who they vote in. So sit in the shit you created and stop fu**king complaining. I’m passed caring now.
Edit to add… Not Canadian, but wishing you all a lovely day 😊
Can’t wait for us to make the same mistake next year! BCs provincial election is an Ill omen.
Shocked, saddened here.
I can’t believe Trump did so well. He’ll be the first Republican to win the popular vote since 2004. He’s a racist, sexist, transphobic, fascist, anti-science rapist, convicted felon, climate change-denier, and champion of the uber wealthy.
I guess there are many more deeply racist and sexist people than I wish to believe. It’s BS how first-past-the-post and the electoral college systems work - it’s so very easy to manipulate the system when you know the precious few key areas in advance to try to influence. Control of mainstream news and social media by the billionaire gives dis-, misinformation, and other bias so much reach to undermine democracy and voters’ rational self-interest.
Is it crazy that he’d be better if he was a five-time ultimate smackdown champion and porn superstar? Camacho actually tried to put the smartest guy on the problem.
I guess there are many more deeply racist and sexist people than I wish to believe.
This. I knew that there was a great deal of racism and misogyny in the USA but the extent of it is horrifying. Having lived almost my whole life there in various states, it still took me by surprise. I dont understand it and never will. Nor do I understand how people can fall for simplistic rhetoric and scapegoating. But clearly it works.
One thing that has helped me the teensiest bit is that even though he got the popular vote, he still got less votes than he did in 2020. It doesn’t help me to know that so many people were blatantly apathetic or misogynistic or whatever we’re blaming the lack of democratic votes on, but at least he got less votes than before.
Empathy at what my American friends are going through, and dread about our own incoming conservative wave.
If they enact a tariff like Trump is proposing we’re going to have to pivot hard. I’ve been in favor of Canada trying to join the shengen economic zone for a while - this may be a good opportunity.
I love that idea too - but how would this work? Can Canada be a member of Schengen without also being part of the EU?
I’d support Canada joining the EU for the single and extremely selfish reason that I would love to instantly move to a different EU country. NATO isn’t north american, EU doesn’t have to be European!
Alas, NATO stands for North Atlantic Treaty Organization - the A doesn’t mean American. That’s why Canada and the UK are members but Australia and New Zealand aren’t.
Likewise, EU membership requires being a European country. There is precedent for this, as Morocco was denied when it applied to join for that very reason: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-07-21-mn-5339-story.html / https://archive.is/hlOdB
Still, maybe Canada will luck out and that Europe thing will turn out to not actually be a requirement for joining Schengen or to join the EFTA. One can dream.
There are already non-EU members that are members and participants in Schengen.
Hmm you are right, but AFAIK all of them are EFTA members and theoretically eligible to join the EU if they wanted. That is, based in Europe.
I’ve love for Canada to join Schengen but as Canada isn’t eligible to join the EU…
Hey, if Australia can make it to Eurovision…
Pretty terrible, I was hoping Kamala would win
Trump is about to destroy the lives of Americans for narcisstic greed and irrational hatred
about to destroy the lives of Americans for narcisstic greed and irrational hatred
I wouldn’t say that’s true. He’s going to start with that and cement in and spread this globally because of how economically and militarily influential the US is. He will align with crooks, profiteers, and other madmen and grifters, and others aspiring to power will seek to emulate the path. He will guarantee the climate change is not only ignored but buried while it’s effects and consequences exponentially increase in quantity, severity and irreversibility.
Honestly, this will be the reference point for a century or much more of worsening QOL for those who live in democratic republics. Empires of US influence are large ships to turn either way, and Trump’s recoronation shows the rot was deep and permanent. In historic scale US democracy was unprecedented though still short.
Hats off to those in other nations, hope someone can pick up the torch the statue of Liberty dropped.
Honestly terrified for what this will mean for marginalized groups in America. I’m worried that we tend to copy American trends, so what will this mean for our future?
I’m worried this will embolden the bigots of the North and justify some of the terrifying things happening in Prairie politics with anti-trans laws and involuntary placement of homeless people into mental hospitals (AKA the rise of Sanitoriums).
PP and federal conservatives have already expressed anti trans sentiment so I won’t be surprised if it gets introduced into federal politics as well next election. We barely scraped by in BC to avoid the transphobic pos conservative leader this time around. I’m getting ready to fight.
Oh, also both major parties in BC wanted involuntary placement so that’s also well underway here too. Gotta love that :/
Concerning, to say the least.
Consider this.
Trump is…a life-long conartist, a convicted felon, adulterer, rapist, womanizer, misogynist, racist, a twice impeached President, a guy who somehow had nearly a dozen close associates found to be guilty of crimes … Breathes
Someone who “gets along” with some of the most brutal dictators alive like they’re buddies, has been caught on tape describing sexually assaulting women, who has lied over 30,000 times in a span of 4 years, who has made threats against journalists, who has publicly mocked a disabled person, who has publicly shat on veterans, who criticised a POW for getting caught… Breathes
A guy who denied COVID, who promoted unproven treatments while condemning those who wanted to safeguard public health, who rambles incoherently about topics he has little to no grasp on, who thinks everything he does is “perfect” and "nobody has done a “better job”, is in obvious mental decline, has never admitted to being wrong or apologized for anything…
And so on!
Now, would you invite someone like that to dinner? Or have him work in your small business?
Probably not. Nobody would, not even if they were related to such a person.
Why then, would over half the voting public stake the future of their country on giving him a second term as President?
You don’t have to like Harris, or even agree with most of her policies, but she is not a trainwreak of a human being and would most certainly be a better person for the job. Any job.
As a Canadian, to know that a garbage heap of a person like Trump could be freely given excessive power by the voting public only tells me that it could happen in Canada, even if the alternative candidate was 1000x better in every way.
North America, and democracy as a whole, seems doomed. And with rich idiots, podcast morons, and domestic terrorists actively supporting a candidate like that, I worry about the future stability of our global community. And we aren’t even close to being prepared for what malicious use of AI could do during an election.
It takes far more effort and time to build a peaceful, balanced society. And less than four years to completely dismantle that progress.
Not fucking great buddy. Not fucking great.
Vile. Disgusting.
I feel so bad for the minority of people there. But the majority apparently, instead of seeing “fuck yeah, Kamala, she could be beacon of democracy and progress in the world” decided “nope, orange man hate people me hate so FUCK YOU OTHER PEOPLE”.
It’s so sad.
I voted Trump and I’m happy. Honda is already planning to bring more jobs here, life is good.
How long until the leopards eat your face?
Oh, about 3 and a half years ago, why?
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What happened?
Biden.
What happened with Biden?
Inflation. Lots of inflation.
Being a white man sure is nice, eh? 🙄
I know right? I just got my latest white privilege check in the mail today. Are you coming to the next patriarchy meeting? I hear they’re announcing a plan to wipe out the Canadian geese!
check
I think this post was for sharing Canadian perspectives.
Ah shit, I didn’t notice this was the Canadian sub. My fault. I’m keeping it up so it’s not confusing to those who come later.
Bullshit. One doesn’t just browse Lemmy and conveniently ignore what community and instance they’re posting in. Sounds like you came in hoping to rub it in people’s faces. Also, nobody would care if you deleted your comment but nice cover.
I was on /all, I fucked up. Go easy my dude.
I actually browse all quite a bit so this has happened to me a few times. However, as they mentioned Canada Geese, I’m not quite sure of their story.
Numb. Sad. Mostly numb.
I was cheering for Kamala. I wanted the US to succeed. She had the big rallies, the celebrity endorsements, the polls were saying it was neck-and-neck. It looked like sanity was going to prevail. Then Trump just basically sweeps it and it’s like…oh. It’s easy to call the Americans “stupid” or whatever insults I’ve seen flying around the internet, but there was a vote. He won the vote. Over 72 million people think that Trump and the Republican ideology lines up best with their ideology. Who am I to argue with that? I don’t agree with it, but I guess that’s democracy in action. Regardless of what lies were told or what disinformation was spread, people overwhelmingly went out, voted for ol’ Donny, and this is the result. That’s how she goes I guess…? I don’t fucking know anymore dude.
My heart absolutely breaks for the people of Ukraine. I’m sure they’ll lose their US support come January. They don’t deserve that.
Meh. It’s not good, but there’s not a lot we can do about it.
I’m not feeling good about Canada’s future. The cost of living is increasing, we don’t have enough medical staff, and the price of rent is too damn high. Our conservative politicians want to play culture war, and our left leaning politicians are AWOL.
It’s fertile ground for populism, and nobody competent seems to have a plan.
So I guess you could say I’m a bit bummed.
Maybe if the doctors flee America when their health care system is destroyed they’ll come back to Canada and we can have some GPs, as a treat.
Tired. Numb.
Ukraine is fucked. Palenstine is fucked. Taiwan is fucked.
Climate is turbo fucked.
And the brain rot heads north