I’ve often assumed Harris didn’t want to insult her boss by going against him, because I got the impression she was planning to give Netanyahu what for once she took over - especially with him escalating things further and further. Did anyone else get that vibe, or was it just wishful thinking on my part?

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    By that logic nazi soldiers in WWII would be victims.

    I don’t think the result of ignorance and stupidity are permissible.

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      It’s on an entirely different level today. Propaganda has always been useful for swaying public opinion, but we live in a world where an entire generation of the world’s most brilliant minds have been set to the task of optimizing ad revenue. And they certainly succeeded.

      Unfortunately it turns out that “increasing engagement” virtually requires pigeonholing people into an ever-increasingly-radical echo chamber.

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        Psychology was a burgeoning field during the Nazis’ time. Now psychology is much more mature as a field and applied psychology is used in software to turn everything around us into a casino for the benefit of those at the top.

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      They weren’t necessarily victims, but you can’t just write them off as evil monsters.

      We need to understandwhy people could go along with it so that we can prevent it from happening again.

      It’s like saying global warming is because we pissed off Almighty Zeus, and not doing anything else to address climate change.

      It’s good you’re upset about it and admit it’s a problem, but we need to actually take steps to stop it.

      For decades what non voters have said for the reason they don’t vote is “both parties are the same”. They’re obviously not, however both parties moving to the right isn’t differentiating them enough for enough voters.

      The solution is Dems moving left so the difference is more obvious.

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        Why not both?

        I completely agree that we should better understand the communication and behaviors that led to this divide, but entertaining another’s ideals in no way requires acceptance of them.

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        The solution is Dems moving left so the difference is more obvious.

        The solution isn’t for the “the Dems” to do anything. Just as AOC and Bernie constantly say, the solution is to build an actual movement of the people.

        Good luck in this country though, even supposed leftists and supposed anarchists waste all day everyday chirping that the dnc did this wrong or that wrong when the reality is that if we as a country were actually doing the work the dnc and maybe even the Democratic party would be irrelevant.

        Electoralism (especially in a first past the post system) is going to get you exactly as far as we are right now.