Nope, I’m very lucid. If you haven’t seen people’s reaction to “raging feminism” then you haven’t been paying attention. Most people who are already on your side will give you a “yassss gurl”, but most people who aren’t already on your side will react by moving in the opposite direction.
To reiterate, i specifically said that the “doing nothing” side of the dial is wrong too. Be a strong advocate, but don’t try to “burn it all down”, because that’ll cause the opposite effect of what you’re trying to achieve
Wow, perfect way to EXACTLY demonstrate my point. By totally and completely making an offensive bullshit false analogy about what I said, that makes me want to attack you back in response. But I believe “staunch advocacy” is most effective, so I won’t do that
“All men are fucking douchebags and should die” -> “if they already think I’m a douchebag and the other side will be nice to me…”
Don’t get me wrong, I understand that that’s an extreme but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen either. I’m not saying I agree really with either side and “turning down the feminism” is a kinda weird thing to say to your student but I have heard multiple different times of someone who saw how much they seemed to be hated and drifted to the right as they were accepted there (even if for the wrong reasons).
That’s true but if they are often confused even within their own circles, the type of men who would drift to the right from it are also unlikely to know the difference
Instead of complaining that feminists speak out, why not call out the actual problem: the misogynists? Be a “staunch advocate” and have the conversations that women can’t.
Nope, I’m very lucid. If you haven’t seen people’s reaction to “raging feminism” then you haven’t been paying attention. Most people who are already on your side will give you a “yassss gurl”, but most people who aren’t already on your side will react by moving in the opposite direction.
To reiterate, i specifically said that the “doing nothing” side of the dial is wrong too. Be a strong advocate, but don’t try to “burn it all down”, because that’ll cause the opposite effect of what you’re trying to achieve
Is that reaction actually increasing the misogyny though? I kinda expect it’s just bringing out into the open what is already there tbh
It’s definitely causing more misogyny. When people feel like you’re attacking them, it makes them attack you back
“This rape would be going a lot better for you if you’d just stop struggling so much!”
Wow, perfect way to EXACTLY demonstrate my point. By totally and completely making an offensive bullshit false analogy about what I said, that makes me want to attack you back in response. But I believe “staunch advocacy” is most effective, so I won’t do that
Imagine getting triggered by women not wanting to be assaulted
Immediately jumping to a rape analogy isn’t fair or apt, you can always make someone else’s argument appear dumb when you jump to an EXTREME
That’s why beacon comments were dumb from the beginning I guess.
How dare I follow their argument to its logical conclusion
“All men are fucking douchebags and should die” -> “if they already think I’m a douchebag and the other side will be nice to me…”
Don’t get me wrong, I understand that that’s an extreme but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen either. I’m not saying I agree really with either side and “turning down the feminism” is a kinda weird thing to say to your student but I have heard multiple different times of someone who saw how much they seemed to be hated and drifted to the right as they were accepted there (even if for the wrong reasons).
exactly exactly exactly
I don’t think it’s feminism at that point. It’s misandry. I know many women who don’t understand the difference, but they’re not the same.
That’s true but if they are often confused even within their own circles, the type of men who would drift to the right from it are also unlikely to know the difference
And we can see plenty of men here who are told what the difference is and ignore it to pursue their grievance.
Instead of complaining that feminists speak out, why not call out the actual problem: the misogynists? Be a “staunch advocate” and have the conversations that women can’t.