• SheeEttin@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    What’s visible from public spaces, including the air, is not considered a search of your persons, houses, papers, and effects. Or at least not an unreasonable search.

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      11 months ago

      So if I got a drone and live streamed some cops backyard pool party that’d be ok?

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      11 months ago

      What’s visible with the naked eye. If using a dog outside an apartment door to smell weed is unconstitutional, I imagine doing a flyover with a drone is too.

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        11 months ago

        I remember hearing about police thermal camera use being unconstitutional (or at least not allowed) in some places. How is this different?

        I would like to add I have no source for this it’s just something I remember hearing and you shouldn’t believe people on the Internet do some research in verified sources or reputable news organizations and definitely don’t just blindly believe what I have to say, but if it’s for entertainment purposes then sure believe me. I believe me but I’m not heavily invested in verifying this fact.

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      11 months ago

      So they can use thermal imaging from outside the house to watch the people inside? That’s bs

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        Police are not allowed to use anything other than the ‘naked eye’ (their own senses) without a warrant.

        If this includes police dogs (it does, the SC ruled on this and a conservative justice wrote the majority decision), it includes drones (with or without thermal cameras).

        NYC will see a lawsuit out of this for sure.

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        11 months ago

        How do you think they catch grow-houses? They thermal scan neighborhoods for heat signatures from the grow lights. Cops are masters of subverting the law to do whatever they want.

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        11 months ago

        I know thermal imaging has been used to look for marijuana farms, back when grow lamps were incandescent and houses would stand out as hot. But I don’t know if they had warrants for those or not.

        But to actually use imaging, whether it’s thermal, radio, or X-ray, to see through a wall, is definitely considered a search.

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        11 months ago

        Thermal cameras can’t see through glass, but they could be used to see if a building is significantly warmer than the surrounding structures.

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      11 months ago

      Your property rights do not stop at the ground. No one has the right to fly a drone over your property. There’s just usually not much you can do about it.