Always happens. A commitment to achieve some climate goal in the future isn’t even worth use as an buttwipe. There need to be serious consequences for failure that go above and beyond the worst-case theoretical cost of the commitment.
It’s literally nothing. Only ACTUALLY decarbonizing is worth a damn.
And to be clear, offsets in ANY form don’t count either. The Paris commitments are to get to ZERO carbon. The only way it makes sense for a country to sell an offset is if they sell that offset at an equivalent price to what it will cost you to get rid of your LAST ton of CO2. Since the offsets aren’t nearly that expensive, we know they are load of total bullshit. They’re fraudulent. Double or triply so for non-national exchanges.
Carbon removal can count, but the legit research is almost always worse bang for your buck than just fucking decarbonizing.
To add on to this, a common carbon “offset” is to pay land owners to not cut down trees that they often weren’t planning on cutting down anyway. John Oliver has a segment on Carbon Offsets.
It also has what is called the “leakage” issue in carbon offsets – if one group of people were going to cut down the trees, get paid, and don’t, there’s still a demand for the timber/land. Some different hectare of trees somewhere else will likely get cut down instead.
It really is a rare case where the neoliberal logic has it right. We expect the cost of decarbonization to grow as we have less and less CO2 being produced. The first tons of CO2 to get rid of are the easiest and cheapest ones. The very last ones, the holdouts, are going to be the most difficult and expensive. In a paradigm where as close to 100% of carbon as possible must be eliminated, then any carbon offsets only make sense if they’re being sold at an equivalent price to those last tons of CO2 to be eliminated. Because otherwise, the person who thinks they’re selling it is really just loaning it out – and the payment is guaranteed to come due.
So carbon offsets should be at least as expensive as, say, direct air carbon capture. Likely more, since even air capture may struggle on those last few tons of emissions. And that’s assuming no scammy accounting practices with the emissions are happening. When in reality, carbon offsets is nearly nothing but scammy practices.
Always happens. A commitment to achieve some climate goal in the future isn’t even worth use as an buttwipe. There need to be serious consequences for failure that go above and beyond the worst-case theoretical cost of the commitment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRB6rSDW5i4
It’s literally nothing. Only ACTUALLY decarbonizing is worth a damn.
And to be clear, offsets in ANY form don’t count either. The Paris commitments are to get to ZERO carbon. The only way it makes sense for a country to sell an offset is if they sell that offset at an equivalent price to what it will cost you to get rid of your LAST ton of CO2. Since the offsets aren’t nearly that expensive, we know they are load of total bullshit. They’re fraudulent. Double or triply so for non-national exchanges.
Carbon removal can count, but the legit research is almost always worse bang for your buck than just fucking decarbonizing.
To add on to this, a common carbon “offset” is to pay land owners to not cut down trees that they often weren’t planning on cutting down anyway. John Oliver has a segment on Carbon Offsets.
It also has what is called the “leakage” issue in carbon offsets – if one group of people were going to cut down the trees, get paid, and don’t, there’s still a demand for the timber/land. Some different hectare of trees somewhere else will likely get cut down instead.
It really is a rare case where the neoliberal logic has it right. We expect the cost of decarbonization to grow as we have less and less CO2 being produced. The first tons of CO2 to get rid of are the easiest and cheapest ones. The very last ones, the holdouts, are going to be the most difficult and expensive. In a paradigm where as close to 100% of carbon as possible must be eliminated, then any carbon offsets only make sense if they’re being sold at an equivalent price to those last tons of CO2 to be eliminated. Because otherwise, the person who thinks they’re selling it is really just loaning it out – and the payment is guaranteed to come due.
So carbon offsets should be at least as expensive as, say, direct air carbon capture. Likely more, since even air capture may struggle on those last few tons of emissions. And that’s assuming no scammy accounting practices with the emissions are happening. When in reality, carbon offsets is nearly nothing but scammy practices.
Don’t forget having multiple parties pay to not cut down the same tree(s) that weren’t going to be cut down.
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I’m open-source, check me out at GitHub.