Somehow this is the only country on earth where this seems to happen. When talking about shootings involving guns, okay, fine, the US is certainly an outlier there, but every country has cars and police.

This is murder.

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    A pit maneuver isn’t an attempt to kill the driver.

    There is no evidence she was a danger to anyone in that parking lot. None. Zero. Pulling out of a parking spot does not make you a deadly threat. There’s no amount of imagination of what could go wrong that makes it so.

    Have the police even used the threat to the public as justification for this shooting? If not, why are you making that argument for them? The only issue I’ve seen them raise was the danger to the officer who fired the shot.

    There’s no such thing as objective right and wrong, we’re not discussing a measurable experiment here. I’m biased against the unnecessary loss of life. I’m biased against police murdering pregnant women (or anyone, of course). I’m biased against our police being far more violent than any of our contemporaries. If that makes me “politically biased” in your eyes, so be it. I’d much rather be on that end of bias than the other.

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      I’m biased against the unnecessary loss of life as well, which is why I make decisions that limit the opportunities for it to happen. To place all of the blame on the police here is shortsighted and makes no effort into holding the person accountable for their actions as well.

      So in short. She made decisions that led to her own demise. She could have made better ones, and she didn’t. Her death, was a result of the choices she made. The police were within the guidelines they are permitted to act upon. I don’t see anything they did here that could have been done objectively better. I’d have preferred they taze her, but it looked like the window was up in her vehicle. I would have loved for this whole thing to turn out differently, but it didn’t.

      I’m just not simply going to place the blame on the police in this situation, as I don’t see them as having overstepped any lines.

      Police do terrible, horrible shit every damn day. But I’m not going to blindly react to every public interaction with police in a demonizing manner without looking at the objective reality. The reality of the situation here is that she made the wrong decision and ultimately paid for it. I wish it wouldn’t happen, but I’m not going to fault the police officers for this one. There are many worse incidences to point out, and claiming that this one was one of the bad ones just dilutes the argument when police truly do something out of line.

      What do you suggest be done otherwise that would have objectively stopped this woman? What other manner of detainment was available here? Does your solution put others at risk? How can we move towards implementing solutions for police that doesn’t ultimately also put their life at risk when encountering people who would otherwise disregard their own safety?

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        I don’t see anything they did here that could have been done objectively better.

        He could have not jumped in front of the car for starters.

        There was no risk to anyone in letting her drive home. Fuck right off with all your deadly weapon bullshit that’s already been called out. Take her license plate, let her drive home, and call with the accusations later. No one gets hurt, problem solved.