"Assad falling is good, because Assad is a dictator. The left should be against dictators, yet many on Twitter proclaimed that supporting the dictator was Good Leftism, Actually.
Syrians and Ukrainians should be supported by the left. Just because Assad and Russia are enemies of the capitalist West doesn’t mean that they should get a free pass from the left to oppress Syrians and Ukrainians.
Palestinians should be supported by Americans. Just because Israel is a nominal ally of the US doesn’t mean that they should get a free pass from Americans to oppress Palestinians.
Assad falling is good, because Assad is a dictator.
Why does Assad being a dictator meaning his regime collapsing is good?
The left should be against dictators
Why? Just because Assad is an authoritarian dictator I should cheer that CIA backed Woke ISIS knocked down his regime?
Just because Assad and Russia are enemies of the capitalist West doesn’t mean that they should get a free pass from the left to oppress Syrians and Ukrainians.
Yet, both of these situations, the instability in the Syria and the invasion of Ukraine, can largely be traced back to decisions made by the imperialist west to agitate and destabilize these regions intentionally. Supporting Ukrainians doesn’t mean you have to support the US proxy that is the Ukranian nation state, and supporting Syrians doesn’t mean you have to back Woke ISIS using guns shipped in by the CIA.
Assad has killed hundreds of thousands of his own people including using poison gas on civilians and operated a gigantic torture prison. Russia and Hezbollah helped him murder Syrians all day every day for the last decade at least. Assad also occupied parts of Lebanon for decades and murdered Lebanese politicians.
As long as Arabs kill Arabs, people in the west don’t give a shit.
Assad has killed hundreds of thousands of his own people including using poison gas on civilians and operated a gigantic torture prison. Russia and Hezbollah helped him murder Syrians all day every day for the last decade at least. Assad also occupied parts of Lebanon for decades and murdered Lebanese politicians.
All of this can be true but it doesn’t mean the collapse of the regime is “good”. The regime has been replaced by Woke ISIS, trained and armed by the CIA.
As long as Arabs kill Arabs, people in the west don’t give a shit.
This is correct, and the collapse of the Assad regime will simply continue this forever war for the USAs and Israels interests. I don’t see how this is good for Syria.
The tankie communities are definitely seeing the fall of Assad as a very bad thing. I was surprised at first, but then not surprised that they’d be supportive of dictator that aligns with Russia.
It’s a double edged sword. Assad gone is a good thing, however it remains to be seen that it’s a good thing for the people of Syria, only time will tell. But you can’t cling onto a shitty dictator on the off chance that things might be worse. The people of Syria certainly seem to be happy about it.
From the Tankie perspective, they couldn’t give a flying fuck about the people of Syria, only what it means for the “unity” of anti-US aligned countries such as Iran & Russia.
I tried but couldnt parse this post. Idk whos side this guy is on and i dont know whos side he thinks im on. Very confusing lol.
"Assad falling is good, because Assad is a dictator. The left should be against dictators, yet many on Twitter proclaimed that supporting the dictator was Good Leftism, Actually.
Syrians and Ukrainians should be supported by the left. Just because Assad and Russia are enemies of the capitalist West doesn’t mean that they should get a free pass from the left to oppress Syrians and Ukrainians.
Palestinians should be supported by Americans. Just because Israel is a nominal ally of the US doesn’t mean that they should get a free pass from Americans to oppress Palestinians.
Reject tribalism. Embrace moral consistency."
Why does Assad being a dictator meaning his regime collapsing is good?
Why? Just because Assad is an authoritarian dictator I should cheer that CIA backed Woke ISIS knocked down his regime?
Yet, both of these situations, the instability in the Syria and the invasion of Ukraine, can largely be traced back to decisions made by the imperialist west to agitate and destabilize these regions intentionally. Supporting Ukrainians doesn’t mean you have to support the US proxy that is the Ukranian nation state, and supporting Syrians doesn’t mean you have to back Woke ISIS using guns shipped in by the CIA.
What is “Woke ISIS” 😭
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tahrir_al-Sham
Thanks. I thought you were literally referring to ISIS as ‘woke’. Completely missed that you were talking about HTS. (Apologies; I have autism.)
Assad has killed hundreds of thousands of his own people including using poison gas on civilians and operated a gigantic torture prison. Russia and Hezbollah helped him murder Syrians all day every day for the last decade at least. Assad also occupied parts of Lebanon for decades and murdered Lebanese politicians.
As long as Arabs kill Arabs, people in the west don’t give a shit.
All of this can be true but it doesn’t mean the collapse of the regime is “good”. The regime has been replaced by Woke ISIS, trained and armed by the CIA.
This is correct, and the collapse of the Assad regime will simply continue this forever war for the USAs and Israels interests. I don’t see how this is good for Syria.
I will let the Syrians be the judge of that.
Jesus fucking Christ.
Ahh i get it. But ive never heard a single person say assad was good for the left. Probably the tankies and the us left.
The tankie communities are definitely seeing the fall of Assad as a very bad thing. I was surprised at first, but then not surprised that they’d be supportive of dictator that aligns with Russia.
Yeah. It’s bad that Assad has fallen to woke ISIS. How can you say this is a good thing for Syria? It just means more war and division for the region.
It’s a double edged sword. Assad gone is a good thing, however it remains to be seen that it’s a good thing for the people of Syria, only time will tell. But you can’t cling onto a shitty dictator on the off chance that things might be worse. The people of Syria certainly seem to be happy about it.
From the Tankie perspective, they couldn’t give a flying fuck about the people of Syria, only what it means for the “unity” of anti-US aligned countries such as Iran & Russia.
Why?
Assad being gone would only be a good thing, if it was good for the people of Syria.
Strawman
Yeah, the weakening of the axis of resistance is probably a bad thing for the future of the middle east.
You’re asking why a dictator who uses chemical weapons on people being removed is a good thing?
I was basing it on threads I saw on Lemmygrad and Hexbear. Their only concern is about the impact is has on Russia, Iran & China.
I’m asking how is it a good thing when the replacement is ISIS. The brave mujaheddins of Afghanistan all over again.
Yes. How will this lead to a better outcome for Syria? I don’t really see anyway how it can.
“yet many on Twitter proclaimed that supporting the dictator was Good Leftism”
Well this is news.
What’s there to say. Twitter’s a shithole.
Unfortunately, many people still use it to communicate and organize, some of whom do not belong in said shithole.