Its only choice is how many of it’s kids they want to send into a meatgrinder trying to hold onto the Russian-speaking territories whose people it didn’t seem to like very much before the invasion, and it seems to like even less now.
There’s no realistic way for Ukraine to push Russia out, let alone deal with the resulting insurgency. Same applies if Russia tried to hold the Ukrainian-majority territories. Actually they’re probably in for an insurgency either way given their conduct.
Mate, the only thing you have to say is that Ukraine is getting fucked over left and right. Instead you find the strangest ways to twist that into apologizing for Russian imperialist interests.
Also if an asshole came up to you, shot you in the leg and demanded your house, how would you react when people around you said “just give him the garden and cellar as compromise”
Ever heard of an analogy? Also you were the one saying Ukraine should just yield to the imperialist power invading their country, puppet
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My brother in Christ, what does my country have to do with this? At least you saw your own bullshit and deleted it, if only you had the same realization about the other shit you spew
But we both know you won’t do shit. You are a first world coward from a country that consistantly have been on the wrong side of history - on ukraine, on palestine, on coal,… My grandma told me about you people. I grew up with memorials for this or that german massacre and collective punishment. Your opinion doesn’t count.
Being in favor of war and human misery is in the germanic zeitgeist unfortunately. You guys need a totale Rückverdummung
I am not saying that Ukrainians should fight no matter what and I have never said that, you can check my comment history if you want to. But I always said that as long as Ukrainians are willing to defend themselves against Russian imperialism, we shouldn’t be the ones to say that they aren’t allowed to fight and that they should just give up.
And I am just going to say one thing about your last paragraph: I am not my country nor a representative and if you think I am, then you are so damn lost that engaging with you in any way is a pure waste of time
Oh, how can Ukraine end the war without essentially giving up and letting Russia win territories through this imperialistic war?
Its only choice is how many of it’s kids they want to send into a meatgrinder trying to hold onto the Russian-speaking territories whose people it didn’t seem to like very much before the invasion, and it seems to like even less now.
There’s no realistic way for Ukraine to push Russia out, let alone deal with the resulting insurgency. Same applies if Russia tried to hold the Ukrainian-majority territories. Actually they’re probably in for an insurgency either way given their conduct.
Lots of words for saying “they can’t”
No they absolutely can end the war by agreeing to a peace deal giving up the territories Russia occupies. They came close to agreeing on as much 2 years ago, with Russia ceding much of the territory they occupied at the time, before Boris Johnson changed the equation by pledging unlimited support. Now here we are 2 years later, over a million dead and wounded, UXO littered across the country, entire cities leveled by fighting, the right-wing even more entrenched in both countries, and nothing to show for it.
because capitulation always works … i forget, didn’t we try that before? oh yeah in the 40s… that worked out great
you can’t let the bully get what they want otherwise they won’t stop
Mate, the only thing you have to say is that Ukraine is getting fucked over left and right. Instead you find the strangest ways to twist that into apologizing for Russian imperialist interests.
Then leave them the fucking dombass, who tf cares? Alquaeda and the americans just invaded Syria and I don’t see you whining about it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
Also if an asshole came up to you, shot you in the leg and demanded your house, how would you react when people around you said “just give him the garden and cellar as compromise”
Funny, you have the exact same mindset as the fascists who want you to give a room to a refugee. Countries aren’t houses, idiot.
Ever heard of an analogy? Also you were the one saying Ukraine should just yield to the imperialist power invading their country, puppet
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My brother in Christ, what does my country have to do with this? At least you saw your own bullshit and deleted it, if only you had the same realization about the other shit you spew
You think my friend in kiev gives a shit about dombass, idiot? Nah, he mostly cares about not getting butchered.
That’s the thing with warmongerers like you, they are never the one paying the price.
If you like ukraine so much, they are hiring: https://ildu.com.ua/
But we both know you won’t do shit. You are a first world coward from a country that consistantly have been on the wrong side of history - on ukraine, on palestine, on coal,… My grandma told me about you people. I grew up with memorials for this or that german massacre and collective punishment. Your opinion doesn’t count.
Being in favor of war and human misery is in the germanic zeitgeist unfortunately. You guys need a totale Rückverdummung
I am not saying that Ukrainians should fight no matter what and I have never said that, you can check my comment history if you want to. But I always said that as long as Ukrainians are willing to defend themselves against Russian imperialism, we shouldn’t be the ones to say that they aren’t allowed to fight and that they should just give up.
And I am just going to say one thing about your last paragraph: I am not my country nor a representative and if you think I am, then you are so damn lost that engaging with you in any way is a pure waste of time