Having fled China because of political persecution or for better economic opportunities, many undocumented Chinese men reject the message they're a threat to the U.S.

Summary

Undocumented Chinese men are alarmed by Trump’s plan to prioritize their deportation, citing baseless national security concerns about “military-age” immigrants.

Many fled political persecution or economic hardship and reject claims of being a threat.

Legal experts warn of racial profiling and expanded ICE raids, urging immigrants to know their rights. Deportation fears grow as China cooperates in repatriation efforts.

Chinese immigrants express anxiety over family separations and harsh consequences if returned, emphasizing they seek safety and stability, not harm.

Critics call Trump’s policies cruel and unjustified.

  • Feathercrown@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 days ago

    Why are we ignoring white women? Your numbers aren’t quite as good in that department. Still >50%, but we seem to have gotten a bit narrower for no reason here, no?

    Anyways, no, they aren’t racist, because white people did steal their land. They were the ones making all the decisions and they were overwhelmingly of the mind that native americans were a worse race. They perpetrated a literal racial genocide. Did they all do this? No, but they nearly all supported it. You can make the claim that the overwhelming majority of the entire race was racist and was totally on board with colonialism. So, you can say that the race, as a whole, is to blame. It would still be racist to blame an individual white person who had no part in the genocide. But the claim validly applies to the race as a whole, so it’s not racist to make under your own definition.

    That’s very different from white people having a ~5% majority with very strong internal disagreements when they elected Trump.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      Anyways, no, they aren’t racist, because white people did steal their land. They were the ones making all the decisions and they were overwhelmingly of the mind that native americans were a worse race. They perpetrated a literal racial genocide.

      The ones making all the decisions? So just like now with U.S. politicians and Palestinians? Also U.S. politicians and sick people? Also U.S. politicians and the environment?

      Did they all do this? No, but they nearly all supported it.

      So just like now?

      Not seeing the difference yet.

      • Feathercrown@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        2 days ago

        The ones making all the decisions? So just like now with U.S. politicians and Palestinians? Also U.S. politicians and sick people? Also U.S. politicians and the environment?

        …yes…? And?

        So just like now? Not seeing the difference yet.

        I don’t know how to tell you this but if you don’t see the difference between 90% support with negligible resistance in the native american case, and 45-62% support (I’m dividing it based on education, not gender, since that makes more sense) with 35-51% opposition in the Trump case, you are so far from the reality that I see that you’ve reached escape velocity. In no world is a 10% lead “nearly all”.

          • Feathercrown@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            2 days ago

            It was revealed to me in a dream

            To be serious, I very much doubt reliable polling data from the 1700s exists on this subject. If less people supported it than I thought, then it was less racist. It seems like most white people were fine with it though, so native americans pointing out that it happened is not racist, unless they’re applying that fault to an individual white person.

            • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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              2 days ago

              You mean you’re making a broad assumption about a race of people without knowing the facts?

              That sounds racist based on the criteria you’ve laid down.

              • Feathercrown@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                2 days ago

                It’s not an assumption, it’s supported by historical accounts and is reflected in our past actions. What are you arguing? That the historical genocide of native americans wasn’t partially based on large-scale racism? Stop trying to gotcha me and realize that you’re implying some pretty weird stuff.

                Anyways, we’re just going around in circles. We’re not making much rhetorical progress. I’m now in the car on my way to Christmas so I think it’s time for me to take my leave instead of arguing about racism on the internet. Thanks for the convo, and happy Hanukkah if you celebrate.

                • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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                  2 days ago

                  Large-scale racism? You mean not all white people were racist?

                  Seems again, like based on your own criteria, you are making a racist claim.

                  • Feathercrown@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                    2 days ago

                    Yup, there were people who protested the status quo and did not support the racist endeavors, and may not have been racist themselves. But from what I know of that period of history, it was rare. Note that I didn’t use the statements about the overall situation to assign blame to any particular person.

                    I’m not following your claim that I’m racist and I don’t really care to since you seem intent on repeatedly trying to call me racist and none of the previous claims have been accurate. Stop trying to “win” the argument, I’m already out. Take the opportunity to exit gracefully and enjoy the holiday season and move on.