I’d sincerely recommend everyone to read his manifesto and think about it a little bit.

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    Also, we’re still wondering if the McSnitch is getting their reward money. The last I heard they were thinking about withholding it.

    And that would be such a great propaganda point to show that US law enforcement doesn’t regard the rest of us as full persons / citizens and will cheat us out of our due even when we cooperate. So yeah, no-one sees nothing. Ever. You’re a collaborator if you do.

    Zero Witnesses.

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    Are we fucking with sofas again?

    This is one of my dystopian thriller elements: If the police can’t find the culprit of a high-profile crime, then they find someone, plant an orgy of evidence and railroad him into capital punishment or life in a supermax. Just to show that the long arm of the law always wins.

    Doing a for-real investigation and just disappearing / killing off any likely suspects is optional, depending on how vengeful the elites feel about it.

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    Here’s what I might do if I couldn’t catch a murderer but wanted to make an example anyway, and I had access to AI art that was very good at getting approximately accurate images of people…

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    I still don’t think he’s the same guy who shot the CEO, it’s clearly for me a different person in the photos…

    However, at this point this changes nothing of what’s going to happen, anyone caught for this would be facing the same charges. Let’s hope the jury feels as we all do and lets him walk

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    Luigi is innocent. A witness across the street stated they didn’t hear gunshots at the time.

    Eric’s head just did that.

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    What does everyone think they do with all their biometric and Face ID data? Throw a shitty algorithm against this data cross referencing a pic from a grainy security feed and in this post truth era, 100% of crimes are now solvable.

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      That would be a terrible idea. If they identified him using illegal means, any evidence found as a result would be inadmissible. It’s fruit of the poisoned tree.

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        It doesn’t matter. One of the world’s rulers was gunned down so they are bringing the book down on him. Anything goes.

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        Still more plausible than the cops saying “well fuck it he’s gone” and finding a lookalike to take the fall like a day after the shooting.

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    I was suspicious at first too, but now as weird as the whole scenario looks my skepticism has weakened (e.g. people say he’s been missing from work during the shooting, the unibrow may have been simply visually deformed by the shitty camera, etc.).

    But you know what, I think it’s better to stop trying to be smarter than what is reasonably possible, and at the very least wait and see what he and his lawyer will have to say in the court. E.g. if the evidence was fabricated, they will certainly try to argue that. Not everything about the story will clear up, but some things can, and I say it’s better to wait it out with a bit of patience.

    Besides, what if it really wasn’t Luigi and we’ve all been duped? How will the fanboys and fangirls lusting after him feel? What will the smart businessmen do with their leftover Saint Luigi candles?

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    I have said it once and I will say it again: I am genuinely shocked at just how many people, especially on Lemmy, are just accepting that Luigi is the real shooter. I haven’t believed it for one minute and the only thing that will make me believe it is audio proof of Luigi confessing while not under duress.

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      You’re shocked eh.

      This attitude sounds very trumpy

      All you know is what you heard in news reports. There is no incentive for them to arrest the wrong guy, and we haven’t heard all the evidence

      Installing security systems was part of my job, and sorry, but a lot of criminals are idiots. They just assume they’re going to get away with it.

      We had one where some fat guy tried to climb a gate but it broke so he went through it. Then he took his hoodie off as he was stealing a camera.

      Had another where the guy ran a fake school as a scam. When they investigated him, they discovered he had all of the computers, but none of them were set up. But really, the suspicious part was the Ferrari he owned

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        Of course there’s incentive to arrest the wrong guy, because there’s incentive to arrest anybody at all, to avoid looking incompetent. This is policing 101. Round up the usual suspects and if you don’t have any usual suspects, round up somebody.

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        There is no incentive for them to arrest the wrong guy…

        No, yep, you’re right, absolutely zero incentive. Not like there’d be a bunch of rich and powerful CEOs breathing down their neck to catch the CEO killer or anything.

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          You think all the random CEO’s right now are calling the police station telling them they need to catch the killer?

          Are you serious? 😂

          That’s not how these things work

          But you make up whatever story supports your conspiracy theory.

          It’s possible it’s not the correct person. But it’s more likely you guys read a few news articles and the police have a lot more information than what you have.

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            That’s not how these things work

            You’re right, it’s not. Do you really expect a CEO to bother himself with a plebian beat cop? No, he’d call his good friend the mayor, who would call the chief of police, who would put pressure on his subordinates.

            This isn’t exactly rocket science? And if you don’t believe the above is possible, then you’re one of the targets of this grift.

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            Do you think this wasn’t political, and isn’t getting a political response? Are you serious?

            What would be the message if someone managed to off a CEO in broadband daylight and get away with it? Does it matter to them if they have the right person or not, or does just getting a plausibly similar person serve just the same goal with any political message in mind.

            We seriously can’t know whether it is or isn’t the right guy, so it’s genuinely doesn’t matter if it is or not.

            Goddamn I’m tired of people pretending like politics doest exist and malicious people aren’t a thing. Yeah no the world isnt ruled but lizards but conspiracies are every much a real thing and you just registering the word directly as “bullshit” is so dystopian.

            If you me and a third guy plan a crime, that’s a conspiracy.

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      Why would you think the feds want the wrong guy? Because what they want the actual killer to be roaming free.

      What happens if the real killer does another hit in a few weeks? The Feds just be like erm nah this is a copycat we will get him too.

      Occam’s razor.

      Also this post is filled with misinformation itself. There are plenty of 3D printed gun demos on YouTube where the guns don’t explode.

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        Also as far as I’m aware it wasn’t a fully 3d printed gun, rather a 3d printed lower for a Glock. The lower doesn’t have to handle anywhere near the levels of pressure that the upper does, so is unlikely to break when firing.

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        You don’t seriously think that the feds are trying to keep America safe, do you? The feds and NYPD all need to have someone in jail so they can claim that they did a good job. They want to brag about how accomplished they are.

        There is no duty to protect and serve. The police do not have to protect you, and they don’t on a regular basis. I know you might have heard that growing up, but it’s just not true.

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      Personally, it seems more likely to me that he never expected to get away with it for as long as he did, didn’t really have a plan beyond getting out of NYC, and went to that McDonald’s to get caught.

      Maybe I’m wrong, that’s completely possible. But… I dunno… a lot of eyes are on this case. It would be very very dumb of the cops to manufacture a suspect with all the attention on this. Maybe they are that dumb…

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    More likely he had no real semblance of getting away with it and just happened to escape due to the incompetence of the NYPD.

    People who typically go through these plans are not the most mentally stable, he was probably expecting to be caught so he wrote his manifesto beforehand and thought he’d try to see how far he could get.

    Most of all, he probably did not expect the authorities fail to ID him, which is also why he made it for so long.

    Even the Mcdonalds employee might have reported him for other reasons like loitering or general sketchiness and not because they thought he was the shooter.

    Still I think it’s funny how he inadvertently proved the ease of crime with pretty basic rules. Any sort of organized crime, especially one off jobs could probably do it even more discretely and get away with it.

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      Except that manifesto sounds fake AF bootlicking cops in the first sentence? he more than likely dead man switched the one on pepmangione dot com slash manifesto

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        Have you read up on him at all? Luigi came from a wealthy heavily Republican family and was just starting to question right-wing ideology. Having respect for the feds is absolutely in line with the person described in this article.

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          You mean the people who believe the official conspiracy story, sold to us by the Cheney gang? You know, the one that literally defies the laws of physics?

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            Its no use, he probably thinks wtc building number seven collapsed demolition style because the shockwave from the planes hitting the twin towers caused a ripple effect and a butferfly flapped its wings in Indonesia so there was definitely no fowl play on behalf of our extremely trustworthy societal institutions “. 🥴😴🤡

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      The news interviewed the employee, and apparently he wasn’t aware that was actually the real luigi right there. He was trying to waste the police’s time on a lookalike