• blazera@kbin.social
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    1 year ago
    1. Taiwan is a sovereign nation with its own coastal waters. Does Singapore not have rights to its coastal waters? Taiwan is about 50 times larger than they are.
    2. Weird how nations becoming independent had a history of not being independent beforehand, this is a non-point at best, pro imperialism at worst.
    3. I dont care how you feel about countries reasons for having foreign relations with Taiwan separate from China
    4. this isnt relevant to Taiwan’s sovereignty who gets to have the seat of ‘China’ at the UN.

    I also dont appreciate the notion that the people of Taiwan just have no free will and are all brainwashed. That’s a very lazy approach anyone can take against anyone they think has the wrong opinion. You can pull up any material from western sources supporting Taiwan and call it proof of manipulation. And I can point to China posturing its military against Taiwans will outside its waters for daring to have a US official visit them as intimidation to manipulate their opinions. Taiwan has been exposed to both sides, and this is what they want.

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      1 year ago
      1. If Taiwan were a sovereign nation, then its coastal waters would be coincidental with China’s, so again, your claim is spurious. But as Taiwan is not sovereign, has never claimed sovereignty, and has never been recognized as an independent sovereignty, the point is moot.
      2. Pro-imperialism is supporting the European-imposed order. Taiwan’s separation from the mainland was a European intervention - literal imperialism. Ending the separation is, by definition, anti-imperialism. Could Taiwan secede from China eventually? Sure. Not now, though, when secession from China guarantees nuclear encirclement by imperialists.
      3. I don’t have feelings about countries’ reasons for Taiwan relationships. I am just reporting history. You can make stupid claims about feelings but it doesn’t change the fact that your argument has no basis in reality.
      4. The relevancy is to disprove your saying that Taiwan isn’t recognized internationally as a part of the nation of China.