Asking because my family history of mental health isn’t super great.
It is definitely a thing but is much rarer than certain organisations would have you believe.
I had been taking d8 gummies regularly for a few months. Fantastic times. Very trippy and cool. Well, one night I took one, starting watching something on tv and suddenly I’m having all kinds of creepy dark thoughts, heart starts racing, and I get dizzy. I tried calling 911 because I’m not sure where I am or whats happening to me. Couldn’t remember my name kinda trip. Phone keeps melting out of my hand. I’ve never hallucinated that bad on anything before. This probably wasn’t psychosis but I felt like I was in hell. I’ve heard the term “green out”. My guess is, no quality control and my gummy was just super stupid strong. Even though all of them were supposed to be 25mg. I guess my point is be careful with anything you put in your body.
What you describe sounds more like paranoia which can happen if you “overdose” on THC. Basically you took a gummy too many. Been there more then once. All of the sudden you feel this super unease and you’re just hyped that there is bad. you don’t know what, but the feeling is bad.
Best thing to do is being with someone, keep talking, keep walking, preferably outside. Jeep your mind occupied, away from that feeling.
Another thing that works for me is a fast acting CBD gummies, I got a bad in the fridge just in case. I’ve had people tell me they work awesome, I’ve had people tell me it would make things worse. Personally, I’ve used them in moments lime that and I don’t know if it’s placebo effect or not, but it helps within minutes. The heart racing stops, I feel myself calm down.
Greening out is something else entirely. Its Marijuana induced nausea
It could very much be true, according to this meta-analysis study that showed up at the top of my results after spending 2 seconds looking this up
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7442038/
I had heard about the causal link between marijuana use and onset of schizophrenia in people predisposed to suffer this illness (i.e. cannabis may be a trigger but these people could’ve developed the illness anyway later in life).
I didn’t know it could cause psychosis too but there you go. How much truth or risk there is in all this, I can’t say, but I personally am not willing to risk it.
Scaremongering.
There’s a correlation between cannabis use and psychosis, though it’s not clear whether cannabis causes/accelerates psychosis or whether people with tendencies towards psychosis are more likely to self-medicate with cannabis.
yes it’s real. It’s incredibly rare. In most cases, harmless.
You could get unlucky though.
I haven’t experienced it myself though I have felt it close sometimes. Almost everyone in my family has some mental health issue.
But I have seen a friend having one. While he wasn’t aggressive he was weird and unpleasant. At the end he had estranged most of those around him and we no longer have contact lol. Oh and that was the second time he had one, the first time he jumped from a balcony.
No idea if they have mental illnesses in their family though.Just don’t smoke heavily and you should be fine.
Like once in a month maybe.At the end he had estranged most of those around him and we no longer have contact lol.
You called them a friend, yet you laugh at this? Makes me sad.
I have zero training in this field but once read a paper on this. I think it essentially said that ganja was ok (?) on its on but for people with “brewing psychosis” it could trigger/enable that breakdown.
The other problem might be that simply thinking about the possibility of an episode will freak you out - the existential dread would be very draining.
It’s absolutely a thing. Don’t you know anyone who went nuts from it? Maybe it’s just me, but I’ve met plenty of them.
My father also used to work in an institution for psychotic patients. He always brought home the artwork that they made and gave him. He had entire box of it, and could basically go through it and say which drug the artist had used just by looking at it.
Literally any drug that is psychoactive can induce psychosis.
Yes. It is real.
However, not “causal”. Marijuana doesn’t cause psychosis (in the same way that 'guns don’t kill people, people kill people). Psychoactive drugs can induce psychosis is the accurate way to articulate this.
Yes,
Through regular use, psychosis is not unheard of. It is very unlikely to happen if you use it once but regular use will eventually cause psychosis. It will always start with paranoia, which is always the first side effect to appear with marijuana.
I was on a week bender with heavy alcohol drinking. My body was at a bad place. I smoked one blunt and that triggered a psychosis. Took me years to work through it. I had two more psychosis’ not related to marijuana use, 1 year and 1 1/2 years later.
I appreciate that you include the context of the heavy alcohol use, because most people would just blame cannabis completely.
I believe it’s real. But somewhat rare. I have been a 20+ years smoker and despite a myriad of issues, cannabis-induced psychosis or chs aren’t among them. I realize this information is highly anecdotal.
This will be unpopular but I have found Marijuana users to be extremely biased against any negatives raised about the drug and conversely very biased towards accepting anything positive. Because of this and the fact that psychosis is rare, i.e. not the typical experience, the answer you are mostly likely to get here is that Marijuana doesn’t cause it. You can only trust their personal “had it or didn’t have it” but not what they say about never seeing it in others.
Imagine that it causes psychosis in 1 in 1000 users (I don’t know the real ratio this is just for example). That would mean, based on personal experience alone, you would get 999 answers saying it’s totally fine, and 1 saying it causes psychosis. You walk away thinking it’s safe when maybe for you, it’s not. Even if it was 1 in 10 you’d probably still think the consensus is that it’s safe the 1 saying its not is going against the consensus so must have an agenda. Not what if the rate in the general population is 1 in 1,000,000 but the rate for people with a family history of mental illness is 1 in 3? Both can be true but which is the one that matters to you? Here you’d only be finding the 1 in a million number when you really want to know the one in 3 number.
Things like this are not about opinions they are about statistics. As someone else said, don’t ask social media for medical matters, science is not about consensus it’s about evidence. The laws of physics don’t change based on how many people believe something.
Many comments here are the equivalent of saying “I’ve never seen a car crash so they must be made up, it’s just fear mongering by the auto industry to put useless air bags and seat belts in the car to charge you more”.
I agree that cannabis users are generally pretty defensive about their habit, but I imagine it comes from about a century of stigma and demonization. When you grow up hearing nothing but disinformation about the thing, you are naturally going to become incredulous of any new claims.
No excuse, just a possible explanation.
I wonder how much of the rejection of real issues with marijuana are the after effects of nearly a century of it being demonized with sources like “we made it up” or “we just really want to jail black people and college students”.
Then again, we have people out there believing that the entire world was ruled by a single nomadic horde, the world was flooded with mud in the mid 1800s, and 1*1=2 so we might just have a broader issue with people rejecting facts they don’t like.
I’m not sure on the psychosis part specifically, but it took me many, many years of trying it over and over with different friends in different ways before I finally figured out that it just doesn’t work for me. My body’s endocannabinoid system appears to be in great balance and marijuana of any kind throws it completely out of whack.
I thought getting the spins and vomiting for hours the very first time I tried it was just because I was already drunk so I only did it after that when I was sober. But the effect was always bad and I never felt good on it, no matter what kind it was or what the social situation was.
It wasn’t until I tried some really strong stuff with a friend who was a big stoner that I realized I just shouldn’t have it because different people react to it differently and my body fuckin hates it. Every time I would do it, I would have a kind of hangover afterwards that would last for at least a day where I would just be depressed for no fucking reason. Then one time we did some really strong stuff, and I ended up sitting on the bathroom floor for hours with the spins, nearly unable to control my thoughts or communicate. It literally felt like my consciousness was drowning and it was trying to tread water just to utter a single word out of my mouth.
So, CIS? I have no clue. I’ve never asked a doctor about it, but even if it wasn’t, I wish all the propaganda around weed wasn’t just about how amazing it is and that it’s a miracle drug for everyone, because just like any substance, it truly affects different people in different ways; not all of them good.
I will happily stick to my alcohol for mind and body alerting experiences because my body loves that and only has positive reactions to it.
