• x00z@lemmy.world
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        15 days ago

        Yeah I’d rather die fighting than fight alongside people I’d like to fight.

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          14 days ago

          Maybe it’s all Europeans downvoting me. Keep in mind that very extensive US led propaganda is responsible for your hatreds.

          For Canada, and what should be Europeans too, the phantom threat of Russia should not be weighed as a real threat. The direct tangilbe threat of war by US should weigh very heavily.

          If the downvotes are not all from your propaganda handlers, you don’t have time to be too shocked to lose your fantasized hatred (direct cause of your economic and political underperformance/destruction since Ukraine war) in order to deal with the real hatred towards you, that comes from the same assholes who’ve be propagandizing you all along.

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              14 days ago

              Ukraine first propaganda bots, are Canadian last propaganda bots. So sickening to see your disinformation constantly brainwashing the world. It is not pro Russia to be disgusted with disinformation that you want us to be so desperate to clinging to that we surrender to US.

              Anyone that recommends begging the US to stop being mean to us, by showering it with compromises and gifts needs their heads or loyalties examined. Ukraine is not available to help Canada no matter how much you share their hatreds.

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                14 days ago

                Well you do make a point, except for the fact that you support teaming up with Russia.

                So I think you just thought a bit too much about it and lost track of morals and ideals.

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                  14 days ago

                  morals and ideals.

                  Shitting on Russia is popular propaganda, that “we” always believe because we’ve always shit on Russia (except perhaps when Yeltsin was giving the country away to US backed oligarchs). Every lie is true because we unquestionably believed every previous lie. There is only pure demonism instead of “moral high ground” in diminishing other countries. “Liberal supremacy ideals” that give us the right to destroy “less liberally ideal” societies is not significantly different than right wing ethnic supremacism.

                  Instead of fixating on “those American indoctrinated ideals that the US used to have”, waking up to “The US has declared war on Canada”, and ending our enemy relationship to the US’s enemy is step 1 in defending ourselves. That you hope Europe will be closer friends with us, is a nice thing to hope for, but all NATO colonies cowering in fear and not doing anything together is not an effective alliance. A sewing circle for the abused wives club waiting for big daddy to come into the room, and then point at each other over who should be ravaged is not the best defense.

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                    14 days ago

                    You really need to get off your high horse.

                    You want to sound way too intelligent making you fail miserably at conveying normal thoughts.

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                14 days ago

                “US bad” does not mean “Russia good”.

                “US bad” and “Russia bad” can both be true simultaneously. Didn’t Russia want a multipolar world? How about we the sane countries form another pole?

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                  14 days ago

                  A multipolar world is one where countries outside of US get a say. Basic respect for Russia instead of demonic anti-human diminishment goals of pretending you can create a civil war there is multipolarism. That Canada and other former NATO colonies form a “shared values” block is a terrific idea. That US be favoured over Russia is a bad idea, without giving Russia all of the same authority over Canada that US currently holds. Choosing independence is right path for Canada. Not finding a new slave master.

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            14 days ago

            As a European, I don’t need US propaganda to know what Russia has done to my people and other European peoples not just in recent history but for centuries. Recent Russian actions are simply a continuation of the same. Their excuses change but their actions don’t.

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              14 days ago

              That is the pathethic deranged hate that should not be encouraged in Canadian subs. That USSR did things you disapprove of, does not validate punishing “USSR” for giving its European allies freedom. If a foreign power, regardless of which one, funded English or French language supremacism in Canada for purposes of civil war and weapons sales opportunities, that there exists some historical basis for hatred, has zero relevance to how pathetically stupid and evil embracing the hatred for violent self destruction would be.

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                14 days ago

                I’m not talking about the USSR, I’m talking about Russia before the USSR, as a part of the USSR, and after the USSR. Other than that I can’t comment on anything you’re saying because I have no idea what point you’re trying to make.

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                  14 days ago

                  I’m talking about Russia before the USSR, as a part of the USSR

                  Even more pathetic. The Tsar family was mean to your great great great grand parents, so after their populist murder to form revolution, you support every lie that can help quench your thirst for revenge. The “after the USSR” basis for hate is all lies demonically told due to your prehistory hate.

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                    14 days ago

                    I see we finally got to the bad faith twisting of your opponent’s words, a favorite tactic of tankies.

                    Why is it their favorite? Because there is nothing they can say to make the fact of Russian imperialism seem more palatable, so they have to instead twist the words describing that imperialism into russophobia.

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          14 days ago

          The real evil direct threats of nazi B, vs the reasonable right to not be diminished that side A has asserted, and nazi B fabricated to get you to side with nazi B all this time?