Okay. What gives a group of people the right to have self-determination? The right to form their own country?
Fiji is a country aligned with the West, I think. Does Fiji have a right to exist? Under what circumstances would Fiji have the right to exist? I want to understand the criteria
I did specify “in its current form” (meaning economically and politically, not statehood itself) for the West in general. Im a staunch defender of self-determination of nations, but self-determination doesn’t include the oppresion and exploitation of other nations.
Korea being a split nation the only rightfull outcome is unifying the North and South, and obviously i prefer unifying them under the socialist North, rather than the imperialist South.
I say all nations (nation being seperate from state, not all nations have states currently) have the right to self-determination through their own state. But self-determination doesn’t cover the exploitation and oppression of others, im sure you’d agree. The imperialist West is based on the imperialist exploitation of the global South, mainly through economic measures, although sometimes through direct military measures too.
I’m against this imperialism and wish to see Western nations overthrow their imperialist governments in favour of self-sustaining or atleast non-exploitative governments (global trade is possible without exploitation afterall).
I agree that imperialism is bad. Self-determination is paramount.
But now we come back to South Korea, they’re not exerting force externally, they’re not economically influencing other countries, they’re not invading anybody. Why don’t they have a right to exist, why don’t the South Korean people have a right to self-determination?
South Korea takes part in Western imperialism through the Western market. One can think of it as South Korea knowingly buying stolen goods from a shady dealer because its cheaper.
And there is no “South Korean people”, Korea is a nation, currently split due to political reasons. It goes against national self-determination to keep the Korean nation split. Were east-Germans a seperate people from west-Germans? Was it against their “right to exist” when Germany was united?
So any country that trades with Western countries doesn’t have a right to exist?
I will point out that both China and Russia trade with the United States.
The argument that there’s no such thing as the South Korean people because they used to be in the same country is interesting. Globally were one human race, but we have a variety of countries determined by who can defend their borders.
I wonder and under what circumstances in your philosophy would a group of people be allowed just to separate from their parent country?
What counts as the West?
What is commonly refered to the political West. The political bloc based on Western imperialism, im not going to list every country.
Okay. What gives a group of people the right to have self-determination? The right to form their own country?
Fiji is a country aligned with the West, I think. Does Fiji have a right to exist? Under what circumstances would Fiji have the right to exist? I want to understand the criteria
I did specify “in its current form” (meaning economically and politically, not statehood itself) for the West in general. Im a staunch defender of self-determination of nations, but self-determination doesn’t include the oppresion and exploitation of other nations.
Korea being a split nation the only rightfull outcome is unifying the North and South, and obviously i prefer unifying them under the socialist North, rather than the imperialist South.
You said all Western countries don’t have the right to exist.
Fiji is a Western country.
Are you now saying Fiji has a right to exist?
Is your position that all countries have a right to exist but not a right to influence other countries?
I’m trying to understand the philosophy behind your statements please help me
I say all nations (nation being seperate from state, not all nations have states currently) have the right to self-determination through their own state. But self-determination doesn’t cover the exploitation and oppression of others, im sure you’d agree. The imperialist West is based on the imperialist exploitation of the global South, mainly through economic measures, although sometimes through direct military measures too.
I’m against this imperialism and wish to see Western nations overthrow their imperialist governments in favour of self-sustaining or atleast non-exploitative governments (global trade is possible without exploitation afterall).
I agree that imperialism is bad. Self-determination is paramount.
But now we come back to South Korea, they’re not exerting force externally, they’re not economically influencing other countries, they’re not invading anybody. Why don’t they have a right to exist, why don’t the South Korean people have a right to self-determination?
South Korea takes part in Western imperialism through the Western market. One can think of it as South Korea knowingly buying stolen goods from a shady dealer because its cheaper.
And there is no “South Korean people”, Korea is a nation, currently split due to political reasons. It goes against national self-determination to keep the Korean nation split. Were east-Germans a seperate people from west-Germans? Was it against their “right to exist” when Germany was united?
So any country that trades with Western countries doesn’t have a right to exist?
I will point out that both China and Russia trade with the United States.
The argument that there’s no such thing as the South Korean people because they used to be in the same country is interesting. Globally were one human race, but we have a variety of countries determined by who can defend their borders.
I wonder and under what circumstances in your philosophy would a group of people be allowed just to separate from their parent country?