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While tens of thousands of people have joined Facebook groups in Sweden and Denmark calling for no longer buying American, Norwegian company Haltbakk Bunkers has announced that it will stop supplying US military vessels with fuel.
This first US company they (and everyone) needs to boycott is Meta.
I’m in Canada and Facebook is huge for my business. We get more bang out of a free social media post than paying for advertisements anywhere.
I fricking HATE IT.
On a personal level, I almost never use facebook. I refuse to put it on my phone and really only use it not to post stuff for the business - which I do through a 3rd party social media app.
FB is huge in Canada for personal stuff too, me and my friends do not post meal pic or vacation or things like this, but damn marketplace and some hobbies group are strong there. Just the “Made in Canada” FB group grew from 50’000 members to 1.1 million in less than a month.
FB can be easily replaced with Lemmy, it’s just a question of age/generation I guess
no not really, its a totally different thing. you cant follow people here, nobody here uses their real name, and you can’t limit visibility of content to just friends. marketplace is also not a thing, and that feature is not just yet another community
Pretty sure you can follow people on mbin.
I wish Friendica would take off more.
I said that a Facebook group is like a Lemmy community, not that Lemmy can replace Facebook. You got friendica for that (never used it though) For marketplace replacement, Flohmarkt is coming
FB can be easily replaced with Lemmy
Check below…
you did. check above
Lemmy is more an alternative to reddit. Friendica is the alternative to FB from the fediverse
Unsure about that in terms of business pages but I suppose you can if you try hard enough: side bar for standard info, posts for events and communication. The only thing it lacks is the followers portion that acts as soft advertisement, e.g. if your friend follows something, you can see it.
Aren’t there actually tiktok alternatives I’m the Fediverse, rather than suggesting something that’s use case is different?
I meant FB groups, they are jusr like Lemmy communities: it’s a question of a topic + a group of people
Loops, but it’s still almost alpha.
“All it takes for evil to succeed, is good people to say, “it’s just business.”” - Janet Leahy, Michael Reisz
Don’t feel bad for using it for your business.
As you said, a free post is better than paid ads somewhere else. And you don’t use it personally, that’s the great part. Moreover, you use lemmy. Kudos to you
Norway walked that back.
Norway says it will keep supplying fuel to US navy after company calls for boycott
It was a private company that decided not to provide their refueling services to the American Navy, not the Norwegian government. What the government is saying is that they will not be not doing the same that Haltbakk Bunkers is doing. But this company stays firm. The practical effects will probably be minimal, since they are an important but rather small actor in the sector. But as a Norwegian, I am proud of them! (And not so much of my government).
It’s gas the way they used the word ‘shitshow’ in their press release.
Really awesome what Haltbakk Bunkers is doing! Proud of dutch pension fund ABP selling all their tesla stock
Fucking cowards. “Free world” my ass
Add Google to that.
Absolutely! Remove all meta apps and close your accounts. Zuck is a big suckup to Trump and his software collects and sells your data as if there is no tomorrow
That’s true, but first we need to reach enough people to get the movement going. In the meantime they should just turn on their adblockers.
Meta is bad although I would argue that X and Tesla are worse.
American here: genuinely, go for it. If you want to be even more highly targeted, you can also take a page out of Canada’s book: they’re encouraging people to target things that are produced in red states specifically, in addition to a general push for a boycott. Bourbon (from Kentucky), for instance.
As an American here, I think I might join them. Start buying more Canadian goods.
Like their whiskey!
That was my first thought. I want to find one that is smaller and distributed near me.
I might start with Crown Royal. At least the owning company is British (they also own my favorite American whiskey.)
Hah, same.
Most grocery stores now highlight Canadian goods next to the price tag on the shelf
That “Made in America” logo is going to start being viewed very differently than when I was a kid.
My Netflix membership is 10 years old. I’ve cancelled it yesterday. Also my prime membership.
Good, fuck the USA and it’s garbage products. It’d be harder to do if they weren’t shit now, but perpetually cutting quality is basically the USA’s motto. Now they are experiencing it in the government.
Here’s to hoping trump tariff war makes those stupid American pick-up trucks a lot more expensive to buy in EU. I hope the douchebags that bought them before have to pay way higher prices for parts now.
Not to mention Tesla.
Can we collectively decide not to respect American intellectual property laws to really hit the tech sector where it hurts? We don’t get that many physical goods over here but most of our software is American owned. I advocate for not paying American tech companies anymore.
EU regulations that can be triggered in response to tariffs include an option to make that completely legal
Edit because I’m getting asked for a source: EU Anti Coercion Instrument that got passed in 2021 and came into effect in December 2023: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=OJ%3AL_202302675
Specifically Annex I, paragraph 7:
ANNEX I
Union response measures pursuant to Article 8
[…]
- The imposition of restrictions on the protection of intellectual property rights or their commercial exploitation, in relation to rightholders that are nationals of the third country concerned, which may amount, as necessary, to the non-performance of applicable international obligations with respect to trade-related aspects of intellectual property rights.
This applies to copyright and patents, but not trademarks as far as I know.
That would be amazing! It would actually have some teeth
This sounds really interesting, do you have a link or anything I could look for in a quick search to learn more?
Search for Anti-Coercion Instrument, the one that came into effect in December 2023
We need our own tech stack, that is at least verifyable. It’s due time to kick out the American tech giants from government projects etc.
With America possibly becoming the new Russia it is just not safe to rely on Microsoft, Apple, Aws etc.
We need an Europan open source stack.
What kind of stack are you thinking of?
I’m trying to make a google stack replacement, which can also extend to microsoft
That’s worse. If someone was telling me about “google or microsoft stacks” without explaining what it is, I would laugh.
Are you talking about OS, mobile OS, GUI, web, SaaS, APIs, services, subscriptions, servers, cloud, VMs, …? What the fuck is a stack? Stack is a term that has been stolen by web devs and means nothing anymore.
…the services provided by google?
You tell me. What is a Google stack? What is a Microsoft stack? The other guy was talking about a “tech stack” which practically means nothing.
Google’s stack is the services they provide, so google docs is an example, google drive, hangouts, gmail, that bunch
And the mirror from microsoft like m$ word, outlook, their cloud i forget the name of, minishit teams
That type of shit, what else would i be talking about? It was very clear from the beginning
Piracy!
If we start ignoring the laws, we are no better than Trump and his
clownsclan. Go for the alternatives instead. Also, If you keep using the US software they still get all anvertisement and telemetry which is more valuable to them than the software itself anyway.If we start ignoring the laws, we are no better than Trump
“Fascism is when piracy”. What a take
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You’re entitled to that opinion, and feel free to suggest a change of law, but for now … it’s still the law. And obeying only the laws that suits your goals is very much Trump/MAGA style. Let’s not get down to their level.
And so: Hello Lemmy! Here I am! Left ‘socials’ like reddit, dropped hotmail and google accounts … i’ts not much but it’s start
Welcome, new one!
Welcome!
Welcome - just did the same myself or still in the transition of it. Soaking up so much information about how to take data / information in my own hands again.
Welcome! :D
boycott us, please please please please
Our family Netflix subscription ran for over 10 years and yesterday I canceled it. I also canceled my subscriptions for discord, chatGPT, claude and dropbox. BOYCOTT U.S. SOFTWARE
great! as an American please keep it up. the only thing these assholes understand is money. support us by NOT supporting us!
Each day now, I don’t buy a Tesla or an iPhone or a New York Penthouse.
That must be difficult, you’re going through a lot and I’m here if you need someone to talk to.
https://www.buy-european-made.eu/
https://european-alternatives.eu/
And for us Canadian, there is always https://madeincanadadirectory.ca/
Is there a ‘Buy African’ list? I wasn’t able to find one so far.
In South Africa, the law determines that if something’s labeled “Product of South Africa” it can’t have any imported ingredients (tho the packaging can be imported).
“Produced in South Africa” can have imported ingredients - and I’ve been boycotting almost all of that because of the omnicidal carbon footprint of importing things. It’s easier in this country to live ethically tho because we can grow almost everything we need: from food to textiles; tho our energy production is some of the most unethical in the world.
Interesting, thanks
Thank you!
As a Canadian, I have no problem supporting our EU friends.
And to be honest, just looking at the list you can tell that the ethics within those companies are completely different than what you find with the American alternatives.
Even without a dictator leading the States, buying European would still be better. 🤭
Pretty wild, actually!
Sig Jolly til din cola. 🥤
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Can you somehow add content to these lists? I think I didn’t see Galaxus (european Amazon alternative) on there anywhere :)
can you imagine if the movement that we are experiencing in canada takes place all over europe? that would be huge
“Calls for Europe to stop eating garbage food like Americans.” Sounds like a good idea to me.
We have our own garbage food. If you don’t go to McDonald’s or Burger King, you can go to Hesburger or whatever else your region has. Admittedly still inspired by American garbage food, but profits European companies.
Hesburger? Interesting, I’ll have to look that up, haven’t heard of it.
Finland and Baltics mostly. It’s the biggest chain here in Estonia by locations (unless you count gas stations), but probably 2nd in popularity because McDonald’s seems more popular. Idk if they put crack on their fries or what, but it’s just not comparable.
Close, copious amounts of sugar
Like we arent doing that already
Fuck you Orange Clown !
I’m American (embarrassed to say that right now) and came to visit this site to get off Reddit. Even we are exploring non-US options.
Welcome and have fun! Glad to see you over on this side :)
Don’t be embarrassed of being an American, you can be embarrassed of your politicians, of the people that represent you without being embarrassed of where you were born. You can criticize all the bads things in your country (and your country has done) while also being proud of the good things!
But to be fair, you were warned about political parties from the start of your democracy, and even with the warning having just 2 is terrible.
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America is fucking garbage. Shut the fuck up.
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