World’s first crewed liquid hydrogen plane takes off::undefined

  • xodoh74984@lemmy.world
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    You are a person arguing to do nothing to attempt to solve the problem of CO2 emissions from airplanes, which account for a very large proportion of global emissions. You are arguing incessantly about why progress shouldn’t be made. Cut it out. The energy density of liquid hydrogen makes it the only viable fuel source for air travel that isn’t a petrochemical. That’s why this is important. Fuck your whining about boogymen in the fossil fuel industry as a backdrop to this. It’s irrelevant. What matters is progress, because zero carbon air travel is probably the most difficult challenge we face in cutting fossil fuels out of modern society.

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      1 year ago

      Very well said. 100% agreed. We can’t let perfection be the enemy of good progress. This is absolutely necessary work and a good demonstration that hydrogen fuel is viable.

    • MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works
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      bogymen in the fossil fuel industry? You absolute fucking moron, THEY ARE THE BAD GUYS. the fuck are you talkin about bogeymen? Is the fossil fuel industry not culpable then? Fuck off, you’re not serious.

      • xodoh74984@lemmy.world
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        Your fears are making you advocate to impede progress. The government supercedes the fossil fuel industry. That is my point. Yes, there are many barriers to us seeing any meaningful action, including regulatory capture and general corruption by the interests of the fossil fuel industry, but that is absolutely not a reason to give up on addressing the issue of carbon emissions in air travel. The fossil fuel industry advocates are boogeymen. At the end of the day they have no power over the government, and you are acting like they’re “too scary” to be confronted.

        Moreover, that is not the point when it comes to technological advancements to make modern society carbon neutral. We should celebrate every advancement that gets us closer to that goal. And yes, I am fully aware that we are very late and millions of innocent lives will likely be lost to the affects of climate change before we get there. But that is all the more reason to work harder.

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          I’m not saying to give up on stopping climate change. don’t put words in my mouth. I’m calling out hydrogen propaganda as being part of the fossil fuel industry’s attempt to keep us using fossil fuels as opposed to making progress without using fossil fuels. You’re saying we need to use fossil fuels to stop climate change. Fuck right off dude, you’re not serious, if anything you’re a shill for the fossil fuel industry. Whether you’re aware of it or not

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            Liquid hydrogen is the only viable carbon neutral fuel source for air travel due to its energy density. Reducing weight is the #1 most important factor in building aircraft. This shouldn’t come as a surprise. It’s common sense. Hydrogen can be produced via electrolysis, whether you want to whine about the current situation with natural gas based production or not. It is the only option we know about that is capable of addressing the issue of carbon emissions from air transport. Unfortunately, liquid hydrogen much less energy dense than kerosene, but it’s all we have. The important part is that hydrogen is a clean fuel source which can be produced via clean energy.

            Unless you have a Nobel Prize winning alternative energy solution in mind to power aircraft with zero carbon emissions with an energy density as good or better than liquid hydrogen, your advocacy against its use is an impediment to progress.

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              finally, proof that you either don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about or are an actual shill.

              “whine about the current situation with natural gas” bro you are so far beyond confused. You are either an absolute idiot who can’t be bothered to do 5 minutes of research, or you are purposefully pushing false narratives. Anyway, it is absolutely pointless to continue to argue with a person who can’t argue in good faith.