I know of someone who says they listen to Joe Rogan podcasts (political I assume) but I don’t know what this means or what the connotations are. Both this person and I live in east asia.

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    So centrist that he supports DeSantis, has dinner with Greg Abbot, thinks Jan 6 was a false flag, and still claims Trump facing prosecution is evidence that the US is a banana republic despite the episode immediately before having the guest lay out in irrefutable detail the real crimes DJT is standing trial for.

    If he isn’t right wing then the only other viable explanation is that he’s an empty bobble head that invites on as many conservatives voices to nod along with as they can.

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      the only other viable explanation is that he’s an empty bobble head that invites on as many conservatives voices to nod along with as they can.

      You might be onto something there.

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      You’ve never listened to a single poscast and it shows. He has refused to bring on anyone from the republican party because he refuses to help them. Joe is pro-lgbtq and pro-choice. He shares most democrat values

      Is this a republican to you?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve7ccl3YrHU

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        Notice how this person ignored all the listed reasons I gave to hyperfocus on something from 2016.

        “But he said he’d vote Bernie” is a literal meme from how often that tired talking point has been thrown out.

        If he held any true convictions that weren’t conservative he wouldn’t play defense for Jan 6th and pal around with reactionary ghouls like Abbot and DeSantis. He also wouldn’t be trying so hard to downplay the crimes of the Trump administration and defend the “journalistic integrity” of Tucker Carlson like he had any.

        Oh and while we’re bringing up stuff, you missed his recent climate change denial rant on the PoP episode? Because despite your insistence otherwise I do follow JRE. It’s why I know how empty your counter argument is.

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          Y’all are trying to argue that Joe is that evil guy with bad intentions. In terms of politics, he is your average american over 35 and that’s why he resonates so much with people. We’re in a thread where OP asks “what to think of people who listen to Joe Rogan” and the only good answer is nothing. What do you think of people who watch Breaking Bad? It’s the same deal.

          Joe has his opinions and he has to right to have them, but to say that he has bad intentions because he brings people on his table to get their perspective is completely false. He brings people from all walks of life. Do controversial people have no right to speak, we should silence them and anyone who dares give them a platform should be associated with them just for trying to have a discussion?

          Are you guys so void of critical thoughts that you can’t listen to someone you disagree with? Even for a few minutes?

          This video sums up my thoughts if you’re ready to be a bit less reactionary and less judgemental

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLaXSvpfDZs&t=2

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            Big old rant that addresses nothing I’ve said and makes up different arguments to win. Not sure what you’re going for here.

            You dance around the real facts that he has consistently downplayed the crimes of the Trump administration and argues that one of the biggest conservative propagandists, Tucker Carlson, had journalistic integrity. All this while constantly attacking democrats for any perceived misstep and obsessing over CNN. He’s given tons of airtime to Hunter Bidens laptop but seemingly can’t tell you a single thing Trump was charged with.

            You also pretend that I’ve said anything about “silencing” anyone so you can clutch your pearls and act persecuted but that’s not what I’d happening. I’m not censoring or advocating censorship. I’m using real world examples of someone’s public behavior to understand them better.

            The grandest irony is you calling me a reactionary when all I did was point out examples of Joe espousing reactionary rhetoric and giving examples of conservative politicians he’s close with. Not to mention he has on so many conservative pundits he doesn’t need to have the politicians on. He’s already boosting their narratives.

            Also, just to remind you since you said this:

            Are you guys so void of critical thoughts that you can’t listen to someone you disagree with? Even for a few minutes?

            I do follow the show. That’s why I’ve been citing moments from the show to back up my position. I directly referenced events from the past two podcasts. If you can’t accept this then I don’t think you’re intellectually capable of an actual discussion. If you make this empty accusation again I’m not going to respond.

            It’s okay for Joe to be right wing. He’s allowed to change his perspective and think whatever he wants. It’s very telling however the length’s people will go to deny and obfuscate this reality.

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              I responded to people’s comments saying Joe is far-right. And I said “You guys are delusional/terminally online to say Joe is FAR-right”. And you come to reply to me saying a bunch of stuff basically proving that Joe just has regular dudebro opinions that would barely classify him as “rightoid”. I wasn’t trying to win a point, just trying to understand how the fuck some of you can be so deep in your own asses, you think Joe Rogan is far-right. You americans are so much in this US vs THEM that you absolutely want to insist that Joe is some sort of biased character with bad intentions. He is biased, but not because he wants money from the Republican party.

              I also never clutched any pearls, but the way you guys speak about Joe like he’s some outlandish propagandist that espouses opinions that are so far out of the overton window just makes no sense.

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        Is that why Joe has been on an anti-trans kick for the past year alongside all the Republican fearmongering?