The basic issue with Joe is that he can’t or won’t really challenge his guests to justify what they’re saying. Sometimes he gets great guests , and sometimes gets nutjobs. In either case he just lets them talk unchallenged regardless of how crazy or obvious wrong the the person is. And people will argue that by putting nutjobs on the same platform as his better guests he’s elevating them and granting a degree of legitimacy. I sort of agree to some extent.