The Pennsylvania Democrat recalled his time serving as a Hillary Clinton surrogate in 2016, even after he supported Bernie Sanders in the primary.

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    1 year ago

    Shit that’s a good comparison that frankly I’m embarrassed I hadn’t thought of. 👍

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        I think that’s just what democracy is. Healthy democracies are pluralistic. And governing coalitions don’t have 100% alignment on all issues.

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        Lmao that’s adorable that you think that. You think I was excited about fuckin John Kerry? Get real. My candidate that year famously… yelled loudly… and it ended his entire political career.

        You have no idea the amount of settling I was willing to accept to see Bush not get re-elected.

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          You SHOULD have been excited about John Kerry. And Hillary. And Biden.

          Those are the candidates that actually have a shot at winning. I was happy to vote for Howard Dean, and Sander and yet I know enough to fall behind the candidate that actually has a shot at winning if the one I vote for doesn’t get the nomination. Dean made the exact same mistake that Sanders did - he had the naivete to count on the Left and the youth vote to get him elected. And like we’ve seen countless times before, those people don’t vote. All the comments and posts and messages and tweets by liberals online about how this person or that person should win, when it comes to election day they don’t show up.

          So with that losing strategy proven time and time again, why the fuck should Democrats go to the Left, when voters are clearly showing them that they want more centrist candidates?

          The news media ripped Dean apart for having the gall to be emotional after his primary win, but nothing stopped his Base from following up his victory with supporting him in subsequent primaries. And yet they didn’t. Because liberals don’t WANT to win. They want to complain.

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            I was very excited about Hillary and Biden. I volunteered for their campaigns. I’m a liberal. I love liberal candidates, in general

            John Kerry is the political equivalent of plain vanilla ice cream. Sure it’s ice cream. But it isn’t anything to get worked up about.

            My post is about how I will generally vote for people I don’t necessarily like to be President if it means a liberal gets in. I’m not blindly loyal, but I’m sure as shit not allowing a Trump or Ramaswamy in over like, Sanders, if he’d won.

            I hope our President in 28 is Buttigieg. Dude lights a fire in me. If he loses the primary, I will still almost certainly be voting for the Democrat, because insane felons dont win the Democrat primary, so I’m unlikely to have an ethical crisis over it. I’ll take a full on Sanders progressive over nearly any Republican - and I don’t see Bush Sr republicans winning any time soon.

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              Hillary is a fantastic government worker, policy nerd, etc. I wish the Presidency wasn’t such a popularity contest because she’s the kind of person that can get things done. Same really goes for Kerry. Both fantastic Secretary of States.