• ParsnipWitch@feddit.de
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    1 year ago

    I feel like this attitude and generalized hatred towards every person working as police will make it worse because no one will want to do that job anymore. It has already happend in the USA. This activism against police in general swaps to other countries via internet culture and European countries as well struggle to get anyone work as police. This will make it necessary to lower standards and additionally, more police will be on edge since there aren’t enough people.

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      no one will want to do that job anymore

      Good.

      I’ve never seen a crime deterred or solved by the cops. You know what prevents crime? Improved standards of living. Secure housing. Gainful employment. Future prospects.

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        There will always be inequalities, there will always be unhappiness/unrest, there will always be crime to some degree, and thus there will always be the need of some responsibility to deal with it. The important thing is that this group is selected and actively monitored according to strict requirements. The current situation is bad, especially in the US, something needs to change. But saying we don’t need cops is just as stupid as the right-winger’s “I don’t dial 911 🔫🔫” door sign…

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          Not everything is about absolutes, everything has nuance, and to say what you’ve just said is to miss the wood for the trees.

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        You believe that there would be no crime if just everybody had a home and a job? Are you for real?

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          Crimes of poverty, deprivation, desperation? Significantly less than currently.

          But yes, there would still be plenty of white collar crime that we don’t currently tackle either, and in some cases encourage by policy.

          If heavy handed policing worked, it would have worked by now.

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          I’d go farther: home and job are optional, there would barely be any crime if just everybody had future prospects they were worried of losing for not following the law.

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            You live in a very different world than I do, apparently. What about domestic violence, rape, sexual harassment, infringement on personality rights, etc.?

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              How much of that is the police stopping? By the time you see it in the news, it’s already happened, committed mostly by people who thought they had nothing to lose, and a few mentally ill.

              Domestic violence in particular, is much easier to solve when people can just get up and leave, instead of being tied down by a lack of an alternative.

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      I feel like this attitude and generalized hatred towards every person working as police will make it worse because no one will want to do that job anymore.

      thatsthepoint.jpg

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        How can you possibly rationalize that less people working as and apply to be police will somehow make the situation better? The opposite is true.

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          Less authoritarian pigs, more support workers.

          Less shot dogs, more rehabilitation centers.

          Less ex-military APCs, more rehab beds.