Sanders signed Senate Bill 10, which exempts records that “reflect the planning or provision of security services” provided to the governor and other cabinet members.

The bill is retroactive to June 1, 2022, which is before Sanders was elected.

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    Sorry, the #GOP is banning Ranked Choice Voting. I had FptP stuck in my head for some reason.

    And that’s absolutely fine if you don’t want to discuss anything, I’m more interested in the other people seeing thru your well-spoken bullshit.

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      This comment seems a lot more calm than the last, so I’ll give it a shot. But if you lean into rhetoric, I’m out.

      banning books

      I haven’t seen much evidence for this.

      The Florida law that I think you’re referring to merely requires schools to formalize the process for what books they put on shelves. Books were removed until that process was finished, and AFAIK there’s no restriction on what citizens can purchase or what libraries can carry, the only restriction is that books in schools need to be age appropriate (and I’m sure you and I both disagree with conservatives on what that means) and relevant.

      What I have seen is a lot of FUD from both sides about it, and it’s alarming to me that people don’t seem to see past the BS.

      One party is supporting child murder via inaction.

      One party is trying to make kids go hungry while they are forced to be at school.

      I think these are related, but again, it’s hard to see through the rhetoric.

      You can’t murder through inaction, nor starve someone through inaction unless they’re actually incarcerated. I’m not really sure what the first is referring to, so I’ll focus on the second.

      What you seem to be getting at here is the concept of positive rights. I personally reject positive rights in general, but I do think school lunches should be provided to all, but that’s because we legally require attendance for enough hours that a meal break is needed. I think employers should also provide meals if they require shifts longer than 4 hours, or schedule shifts back to back with less than four hours in between. I think employees and students should be free to refuse the provided meals and receive monetary compensation instead.

      However, I reject the notion of positive rights in general, and I think there’s an interesting discussion to be had here.

      One party supports forced birth.

      This comes down to when you believe people get rights. The conservative position is that fetuses have human rights, and liberals seem to ignore fetal rights and focus on the rights of the mother.

      My personal view is more nuanced:

      • it should never be illegal for a woman to seek an abortion, any regulation should be on doctors
      • during the first trimester when miscarriage risk is high, it’s a privacy issue, so it should be nearly completely unrestricted (aside from malpractice issues like doctors urging women to get an abortion they don’t want, but it’s already illegal to force medication on someone)
      • until fetal viability, it should be restricted to medical need, or for people who couldn’t get an abortion during the first trimester for some reason (abusive relationship, legal complexities, didn’t know they were pregnant, etc)
      • once the fetus is viable, the state should fund an early delivery if the woman chooses to put the child up for adoption

      I believe that balances the rights of the woman and the fetus. It doesn’t make either side happy, but I do believe it is better than the status quo.

      One party separated & caged children seeking asylum.

      Both sides have a bad track record on immigration. The solution would be resolved if we just made legal immigration easier.

      But I do agree, I think Trump’s actions here were terrible, and every GOP candidate’s position this year has been terrible.

      I recall reading someone’s proposal, but I forget who (I think it was someone from the GOP), but here it is:

      • All undocumented immigrants need to go to the nearest immigration office to get a temporary visa after a background check
      • Every year, they need to return to the immigration office to get a renewal; this can continue as long as they remain law abiding citizens
      • if they get deported, it’ll be a lot more difficult to get in legally

      On paper that sounds fair, though I’d need to see the details first.

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        I haven’t seen much evidence for this.

        Then you’re purposefully ignorant of what is going on in the country, especially the south, and not worth another moment of my time.

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          Bro could see nazis marching down the street and say he doesn’t see any evidence for rising antisemitism.

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        Lol I stopped reading after you said you haven’t seen much evidence for book banning. That’s next level head in the sand, spend literally 10 seconds in Google.

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          My point was that a lot of the media on both sides present a stronger view of what’s going on than reality. Conservatives was to appear tough on culture war nonsense, and liberals want to dunk on conservatives for being anti-freedom.

          A lot of what actually happens is much more mundane than either side wants you to believe.

          And that’s why I want to have a discussion about actual cases, to point out how mundane the changes usually are.