The Green Party has announced that it wants to increase annual leave to five weeks.

Co-leader Marama Davidson told a crowd at a E Tū election launch in Māngere today that it would provide organisations with plenty of notice and ensure the full five weeks is available for everyone by the end of 2025.

This wouldn’t make NZ an unusual outlier globally, though perhaps it would be in this hemisphere - and that could be an attractive aspect as we continue to lose talent to Australia.

I’d like to see them carve out an exception for businesses that opt for a 32-hour 4-day week - either one works towards a better work-life balance and a 4-day week is a lot more personal days than just one week extra. Providing an exception for 4-day week businesses would avoid slowing uptake of the 4-day model for businesses that can make it work. The question is, how to balance the exception and leave changes for non-full-time employees?

Can NZ afford it? How many businesses are too fragile from the recent years of challenging operation. I suspect many can afford this, and that some have been pocketing the rewards of improved revenues in this inflationary environment without readily passing on those rewards. There could be more businesses struggling than we’d hope, that are too fragile from the challenges of recent years to wear the new costs.

Then again, maybe some negative impact is worthwhile for the improvement to the portion of the workforce that lacks the negotiating position to get such a deal - some executives and upper management certainly do enjoy such arrangements, including reduced days on massive salaries.

As an employee I like it.

  • Xcf456@lemmy.nz
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    11 months ago

    All this ‘we can’t afford it’ happened when we went from 3 weeks to 4 weeks annual leave 20 odd years ago.

    And when sick leave came in.

    And when the weekend came in.

    Every improvement to workers’ rights gets met with the same outcry. We’d still be in workhouses if we listened to it.

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      11 months ago

      You typically make those changes when the economy is doing well though, not in the middle of a cost of living crisis.

      I’d certainly like an extra week of annual leave, but cost of living is a far bigger concern to me right now.

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        11 months ago

        Mate, if you’re concerned about the cost of living you should be worried about National prepared to dump over $15 billion onto the housing market through tax cuts geared at the upper end, landlord incentives and reintroducing foreign buyers. At the same time they’re wanting to put through other changes that will restrict new supply. Prices are going to absolutely explode again.

        I honestly don’t know how these types of changes track against the prevailing economic state, and it suspect it doesn’t really matter - every rise to the minimum wage, every increase in entitlements gets the same response.

        You could probably go check out the Parliament hansard records from 2007 when annual leave when from 3 weeks to 4 and find the exact same arguments.

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              11 months ago

              Just the fact that you show up in every thread ready to argue with anyone and everyone. It must be exhausting being you.

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                11 months ago

                I mostly argue with you to be honest, which means you’re also in every thread. Not sure why you keep going for personal attacks though

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                  11 months ago

                  You must be new here, this guy has shown up in every single vaguely political post over the last few days primed and ready to go.

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        11 months ago

        Second this - right now we are expecting business to

        • significantly increase wages (minimum wage more than doubled while inflation was ~29%

        • recover from covid

        • build up financial reserves due to significant chance of recession

        • add on about an extra 3% in annual wages to cover leave

        • invest significantly in sustainability

        • while fighting staff shortages.

        Something is going to give

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            11 months ago

            I wouldn’t say wait until after the recession, because others are right its never a good time. What it needs is to be a part of a greater package and goal, not an ad-hoc vote gatherer at the cost of employers and inflation.

            Stop the focus on the 3 year election, and look at the longer issues our country faces and how developing these longer term goals can lead to a better working environment and reduced costs of living - an incredibly difficult task considering in the global scale our country is little more than a large suburb in a major city and we have little choice but to go with the flow.

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    11 months ago

    The time is never right. Making change always causes a bit of pain in the short time. That is not a reason to not try and improve our country.

    As a business owner I support this.

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    11 months ago

    What would be great if the parties in power put these kind of policies in place when they had the opportunity rather than when the are clearly going to lose the election.

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    11 months ago

    While I very much like the idea, I don’t think this is a good time to be implementing this at all.

    We’re on the edge of recession, inflation is out of control, I certainly can’t afford to go on holiday anyway. This is something you enact when the economy is actually doing well.

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      11 months ago

      Best time is now. However I don’t see how green would manage this. Are they going to pay companies while we are away ? How’s that going to work for non profits ? This just screams bullshit propaganda.

      Would love to see them voted in just for them to turn around and say. Actually that’s not feasible. Similar to every other politicians bullshit manifesto.

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    11 months ago

    Its nice but I don’t see why. Do people think we don’t get enough holidays here?