[ifixit] We Are Retroactively Dropping the iPhone’s Repairability Score::We need to have a serious chat about iPhone repairability. We judged the phones of yesteryear by how easy they were to take apart—screws, glues, how hard it was…

  • stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub
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    11 months ago

    So what’s the new solution in place of DRM to make sure that the things you make aren’t ripped off by China or any other rich competitor?

    What’s to stop the big players that are already seated in their thrones from abusing and stealing shit from the peasants?

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      11 months ago

      How does forcing a company like Apple or John Deere to allow their customers to repair their own products lead you to think China isn’t already ripping off every bit of tech they come across?

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        11 months ago

        Listen, I’m pro right to repair, but I’m against solutions that cause more problems for the average Joe.

        I also did not say what you’re claiming, that’s your interpretation. Of course China commits mass IP theft left and right, but do you think it would be easier or harder for them to do it with DRM removed?

        That’s my point. We cannot afford to make hasty solutions, there is plenty already at stake for regular ass people in this world run by the rich and powerful.

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          11 months ago

          So what’s the new solution in place of DRM to make sure that the things you make aren’t ripped off by China or any other rich competitor?

          This you?

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            11 months ago

            Yes those are my words but the interpretation was wrong.

            Of course China has high IP theft rates, everybody knows that. Look at how hard they keep pushing this god damn shopping app I keep seeing.

            My point (that you’ve probably read over and over and willfully chose to ignore at this point so you could make a pedantic argument) was that removing DRM would only make it easier for them.

            However one person brought up removing DRM was super trivial - still waiting to hear back on those details to confirm if that was “just talk” or not.

            If it’s already trivial to remove, then yeah getting rid of DRM wouldn’t make things easier for them, and thus we wouldn’t be making things worse.

            …which brings us back to the quoted material - what solutions in place of DRM, that would be more protective and less trivial to remove thus making things HARDER to be stolen from.

            People forget what stage of the game we’re in. The rich are now ULTRA rich. You can’t stuff that cat back in the bag less you literally tank the economy. You have to protect the little seedling people and chain the rich up (so to speak of course) to slow down their endless growth.

            We have a runaway reaction going on in my opinion and we all know what happens to “closed systems” and their entropy levels (metaphor, yes that has to do with physics specifically, but I find the parallels to be interesting)

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      11 months ago

      DRM does not prevent them stealing the technology they are only there to maximize profit. Everything is basically manufactured in China so the know-how is already overseas. Copyright laws already exist to prevent complete rip-offs.

      If a shock absorber of my car breaks I have the freedom to choose the quality/type of the spare part (Genuine/OEM/used or aftermarket supplier) and who performs the repair (Dealer/local repair shop or myself). That’s healthy competition and it should be the same for electronics.

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        11 months ago

        Agreed but again, I ask my question.

        Do you think the removal of DRM would make things easier or harder for China.

        That is my point. If you can’t answer the question that’s fine but I don’t wish to discuss side topics or metaphors. Making things easier for thieves is bad mkay.

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          11 months ago

          This is like asking if using left handed threaded screws would make it easier or harder for China. They’re already the ones manufacturing all the components and the device itself. Removing/adding a step in the process doesn’t change anything.

          DRM hampers legitimate customers / repair without actually doing anything against piracy.