I am alarmed, but not for 2025. They’re not likely to win in 2024, but that doesn’t mean they’ll drop their machinations after being foiled. I’m more concerned about the next coup attempt and the 2028 election.
Defeating an incumbent is no small feat, even with the insanity going on. Just look at Boebert as a prime example. Ted Cruz is despised, yet he keeps winning by the skin of his teeth.
I’m referring mainly to that phenomenon, not implying that it’s going to be a cakewalk or that people should get complacent.
He also got 74M votes in that election. I too don’t want him to win, but assuming he will lose is sure way to help him in the election.
In 2016 he won, because everyone was certain that Hillary has the presidency in her pocket. A lot of people who normally would vote for her did not show up or voted 3rd party as a protest, because they were certain that it won’t affect the outcome.
Trump lost, sure, but that’s the exception, not the rule. And in a head-to-head with Biden, who is doing a fabulous job ingratiating himself to unions, coupled with the clown show that is the remainder of the Republican party, and it’s an obvious uphill battle for anyone trying to unseat Biden.
However, as I said, that is not a call to get complacent. We collectively unseated the incumbent in 2020, but make no mistake that the people that want him there this time have a lot of money and influence. We need to be as coordinated if not more so this time around, because it really is going to be a matter of, “Do you want fascism or democracy?”
The autocratic powers pulling the GOP strings don’t intend to repeat their same mistakes.
Yeah, assuming trump loses, I’m still really nervous of the various ratfucking the GOP has prepped for 2024. But it is, in fact, not a guarantee that trump won’t win outright. There’s been a number of factors that have made biden somewhat unpopular (higher interest rates, gas prices, inflation). I believe those are mostly out of his control, but does the average voter? Biden is far from a perfect president, he’s done some pretty good stuff but he’s also somewhat milktoast in areas that might cause voters to not turn out.
Until the rightwing shitbags ditch their autocracy ambitions we are in a super perilous position. They have the judiciary locked up likely for the next 30 years which is going to make progress really super hard (making progressives look bad).
Until dems are consistently winning the house, senate, and presidency nobody should feel comfortable when a presidential election comes around. The fact that dems lost the house in 2022 is something that should make every anti-fascist nervous.
The fact that dems lost the house in 2022 is something that should make every anti-fascist nervous.
I agree, though I will say that was predictable (even though it didn’t have to happen at all). By all accounts, Democrats should have lost more, but thanks to a lot of effective grassroots efforts on shoestring budgets (fuck you, DNC), they didn’t.
Either way, it’s going to be a lifelong battle for many of us. Thanks, “Me Generation.” /s
Hillary won the popular vote. The Republicans haven’t won the popular vote since 92, and it’s increasingly unlikely they ever will again. This sucks because that allows the DNC to throw whatever milquetoast fossile they want to into the seat, because they know they have the country held hostage by the FPTP bullshit.
I am alarmed, but not for 2025. They’re not likely to win in 2024, but that doesn’t mean they’ll drop their machinations after being foiled. I’m more concerned about the next coup attempt and the 2028 election.
I can be alarmed for both. Just because they look like a circus right now doesn’t mean Trump can’t win again in 2024.
And that’s a sober and reasonable way to look at it.
you’re out of your mind if you think they’re unlikely to win in 2024, that’s exactly what everyone thought about 2016
Defeating an incumbent is no small feat, even with the insanity going on. Just look at Boebert as a prime example. Ted Cruz is despised, yet he keeps winning by the skin of his teeth.
I’m referring mainly to that phenomenon, not implying that it’s going to be a cakewalk or that people should get complacent.
Yet trump lost in 2020 despite being incumbent.
He also got 74M votes in that election. I too don’t want him to win, but assuming he will lose is sure way to help him in the election.
In 2016 he won, because everyone was certain that Hillary has the presidency in her pocket. A lot of people who normally would vote for her did not show up or voted 3rd party as a protest, because they were certain that it won’t affect the outcome.
Trump lost, sure, but that’s the exception, not the rule. And in a head-to-head with Biden, who is doing a fabulous job ingratiating himself to unions, coupled with the clown show that is the remainder of the Republican party, and it’s an obvious uphill battle for anyone trying to unseat Biden.
However, as I said, that is not a call to get complacent. We collectively unseated the incumbent in 2020, but make no mistake that the people that want him there this time have a lot of money and influence. We need to be as coordinated if not more so this time around, because it really is going to be a matter of, “Do you want fascism or democracy?”
The autocratic powers pulling the GOP strings don’t intend to repeat their same mistakes.
Yeah, assuming trump loses, I’m still really nervous of the various ratfucking the GOP has prepped for 2024. But it is, in fact, not a guarantee that trump won’t win outright. There’s been a number of factors that have made biden somewhat unpopular (higher interest rates, gas prices, inflation). I believe those are mostly out of his control, but does the average voter? Biden is far from a perfect president, he’s done some pretty good stuff but he’s also somewhat milktoast in areas that might cause voters to not turn out.
Until the rightwing shitbags ditch their autocracy ambitions we are in a super perilous position. They have the judiciary locked up likely for the next 30 years which is going to make progress really super hard (making progressives look bad).
Until dems are consistently winning the house, senate, and presidency nobody should feel comfortable when a presidential election comes around. The fact that dems lost the house in 2022 is something that should make every anti-fascist nervous.
I agree, though I will say that was predictable (even though it didn’t have to happen at all). By all accounts, Democrats should have lost more, but thanks to a lot of effective grassroots efforts on shoestring budgets (fuck you, DNC), they didn’t.
Either way, it’s going to be a lifelong battle for many of us. Thanks, “Me Generation.” /s
Hillary won the popular vote. The Republicans haven’t won the popular vote since 92, and it’s increasingly unlikely they ever will again. This sucks because that allows the DNC to throw whatever milquetoast fossile they want to into the seat, because they know they have the country held hostage by the FPTP bullshit.
popular vote doesn’t matter
it’s amazing how you people always find a way to blame Democrats for literally everything
what year is it?