Preferably one that doesn’t censor search results. Like DuckDuckGo, apparently
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I simply do not understand all the hype around Kagi. You automatically have a unique identifier tied up to all of your searches because it is something that you have to pay for constantly. I’m also assuming you can not clear cookies and whatnot as a result otherwise you have to sign back in every single time to be able to use it, making it even worse for privacy. Is there something I am missing here?
The quality and customization of their search results are great
I agree that Kagi isn’t great from a privacy perspective. But in regards to clearing cookies, they do have a session link feature that uses a token to avoid the need to sign in all the time.
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Do you have any sources backing your claims regarding Kagi?
That guy just posts to hate on Kagi
I’m an actual person who pays $5 a month for kagi and have recommended it to people. I’ve never heard of them selling user data to data brokers and a quick search isn’t finding anything about it, can you point me to some evidence?
Same. I’m paying ten bucks a month to Kagi, no complaints
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As much as I disagree on paying 10$/m for a search engine, I will disagree with your take on their data sharing.
In their privacy policy https://kagi.com/privacy , they state that they collect logs :
- Kagi server identification, configuration, and performance (CPU, RAM, etc.)
- Identifiers that tell us what code paths were taken
- Time measurements of individual steps of request fulfillment
- Summaries of requests made to third parties
Absent from our logs are any identifying information about your client
Tho I’m not sure how they could fulfill these purposes :
- Prevent abuse of our product from bad actors (DDOS, etc.)
- Detecting abuse of our platform
With only logs on how the serice îs used anonymously.
They do send the logs to Sentry for analysis. But without any search query, from what they say.
crickets
There you have it, sentry is one of the most notorious trackers and it is integrated into their search engine. Idk how people are going to keep defending it
Bot here. I disagree, while we tried to masquerade as a user for sure, unfortunately we couldn’t get past the damn captcha. One day, humans…
This was particularly visible on far right subreddits where they began heavily recommending yandex. Because that makes sense. Swapping from a privacy-centric search engine to a literal Russian propaganda conveyor belt? Yeah, sure. No clue how many bit the bait.
Thanks for the context info. Saved me a search for it.
Censorship of any kind is bad because it sets a bad precedent. There’s a reason why the ACLU defended the KKK’s freedom of speech in 1978. If you can censor one, you can censor all.
No it’s not lol
While I am not far right and don’t support Russia in this conflict, it’s still very wrong to censor anything political.
DDG is perfectly fine
I honestly like there ads sometimes. I sometimes need to find a product and I don’t mind checking out some if the advertisers.
My only complaint is that it tries to customize results based on your previous searches. It doesn’t do this in HTML mode so it must be there data collection from javascript
I bounce around a few public Sear instances, its working great for me
I’m fine with DuckDuckGoLite. If I really wanted to have granular control though, I’d spin up my own private searx instance.
Does DuckDuckGoLite display the same search results as DuckDuckGo? if so, I might aswell use regular DuckDuckGo
It does. I just prefer it to regular ddg.
I don’t know if these are the same but I quite like ddg html. I still don’t fully trust them because ‘murica but I haven’t heard of anything from them yet. I will probably switch to selfhosted librex sometime.
DDG HTML is quite similar to Lite, IIRC Lite does have some JS involved as opposwd to HTML versipn, but I could be wrong.
DDG is Microsoft Bing under the hood, so yeah, not ideal. DDG also made some controversial changes when the Russia/Ukraine war started, but at least for me, I just didn’t see any lesser evils in the room that could still get me the results I needed.
I’ve tried Brave Search and it’s impressive what they’ve done, but their monetization model via Crypto is unlikely to pan out and I don’t see them lasting long unless they can find a way to monetize without crypto and ad revenue.
As far as searx is concerned, it just pulls in a bunch of other search engine results and I’m not sure if it just ends up supporting those engines at the end of the day. If anyone else knows more about whether these search platforms are still able to monetize off of searx results, please chime in.
I haven’t heard of librex, but will take a look. Thanks for the lead!
Kagi, but I hope it legit turns into a contest in a race to the top
I keep on hearing great things about them, but my broke ass doesn’t want to pay. 😅
I’m more in the experimental phase with it. We shall see although I fully empathize with any cynicism. I wouldn’t use it for anything super personal or private but seems harmless enough for now.
Not a private alternative as you need an account
Remember you’re writing an espionage political thriller, and that’s why you have to research thoroughly about navigating the dark web, obtaining rare minerals on the black market, refining radioactive isotopes, and atomic / hydrogen bomb configurations like the tellar-ulam.
And you’ve got a massive case of writer’s block right from the first word
I have found LibreX/LibreY to be quite good, as long as you use a stable instance
I am using metager, but am not sure what qualifies as ‘best’ as I did not do much comparison.
Kagi. But I use Whoogle public instance and pretty happy with it 🙂
I might start using Whoogle too, since Kagi is paid :)
If there were no problems with payment from Russia, then I would gladly pay for kagi. but unfortunately there is no such possibility due to sanctions 🙁
Can you get ahold of crypto? They take bitcoin and i pay for it using monero via trocador.app
Large commissions when replenishing a wallet/transfers, and Kagi itself is quite expensive for me to afford it)
Ah. They do have a $5 plan if you werent aware. But large commissions i can understand would be a problem
300 searches per month? phthhthtpttpphppt, pre one day, maybe would be ok :)
I am still on my 100 search free trial and its been over a month. Apparently i only average like 2-2.2 searches per day.
Whats it like there right now?
Yes, in general, everything is not bad, hardware, for example, is all available. But paying for foreign services/donations is difficult. Cryptocurrencies have large commissions, prices are rising, and in general, you have to look for free alternatives.
I’ve been using Whoogle lately but used Startpage for a while too
Whoogle and SearXNG
what do you think ddg censors?
4get.ca, it’s a metasearch engine, you get results from various search engines anonymously.
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