Hello I just created this Account for this Question. Is it okay to support Israel in the middle east conflict? I’m from Europe and have no ties at all to any Side. Its just that I lean more to the Side of Israel then any other. Is this okay? Is it up to debate which Side is to support or is one of them clearly in the Wrong? (Like Russia is in the Wrong attacking Ukraine or Germany attacking Polland 1939).

EDIT: For clarification: Im talking about their Settlements and their military campaigns NOT about their government.

If this Post is too political please remove and I’m deeply sorry for that.

  • Aceticon@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Being for a very large group of people is illogical because (with the noteable exception of groups whose membership is defined solely by the actual actions of the members, i.e. " people who have commited gruesome murders") the group doesn’t need to have that many people for there to be an absolute certainty that at last one of its members are complete total shits, by which point a reductionist “supporting a group” ends up in part being “supporting some people who are complete total shits” and if you have any principles you don’t really lead your support in such a vague and open-ended way that you’re supporting such people.

    The only reasons for a person to be for a group of people such as a nation are emotional, either tribalism or emotional reacting to things you hear about “them” or done to “them” (and not having the intellectual filters to read said “them” as reductionist bollocks), which is why Propaganda works so well in this domain.

    By the way, this logic also applies to being against a group, which is the core of a lot of “-isms” such as racism (again, from some complete total shits there is a generalization to all members of a group not defined by their actions), making the person against the group be de facto against some very good people.

    Being against doing bad shit, without the reductionism, obfuscation and and dehumanization of looking it as “sides” rather than people, is probably the only logical thing to do as there you have a path from morably reprehensible actions to the people who did them without diffusing to meaninglessness the actual judgments about “specific people who chose to do or not do certain things”.

    PS: By the way, this is also why I dislike news about “Company X/Government Y did bad thing” - the company or government are not self-aware entities with agency, it’s people in positions of power there making the choices and I think we would have a much better world if the Press did its job and named names rather than willfully going along with the diffusing and obfuscating of responsability.