yes, this is the part where I gave up trying to say
“Hey it’s bad these guys make their games exclusive, pc players and xbox players and whatever should all be able to play these games”
because now fuck it, why bother. pc players and xbox players do not care as soon as they got theirs. they won’t show the same support as soon as they get their games.
Why should I show support for players on other systems, if players on other systems will not show the same support back?
Sony players don’t care as long as they get theirs
I used to, you generally saw the sentiment of “this isn’t good for us, we dont’ want this”, now everyone is suddenly okay with one company owning all this stuff because it comes out on pc.
It’s hard to care about people complaining about exclusivity anymore, because they only care when it affects them personally.
It won’t fulfill your apparent need to have people pat you on the tummy and say you are a good boy but:
PC more or less is THE second platform (or first, with console as second) for a lot of people at this point. So if the option is:
Studio goes out of business because a great game didn’t sell amazingly well. See Mimimi for a “good” example of this
Soft or hard acquisition results in games trapped on a single platform with questionable backwards compatibility policies. Bayonetta 2 and 3 being nintendo exclusives until the end of Nintendo is a “good” example of this
Soft or hard acquisition results in game that is console exclusive to one platform, but also on PC
I’ll always pick 3. Because as console prices increase? A “couple years old” gaming PC is not horrifically expensive (so long as crypto stays in the shitter…).
But also? Shit like Geforce Now and other streaming solutions means that people (who don’t live in the ass end of nowhere and have such horrible internet they wouldn’t be able to download the day one patches anyway) can play these games on their macbooks or even their chromebooks.
It won’t fulfill your apparent need to have people pat you on the tummy and say you are a good boy but:
Okay, we know where your head is. but i’m going to engage anyway just to say that i’m looking for solidarity, and not finding it. I’m finding selfishness. Previously I was in support of not having things exclusive, I didn’t want it, It didn’t benefit me. but I’m not seeing that support back from pc gamers like you.
Do you think it’s okay for me to say “it’s okay for final fantasy games to be exclusive to one system, you should have bought a playstation”. are you happy with that statement?
People will constantly point to grey market sites like g2a and even gmg (g2a is really more of a black market site but…) and smugly mock anyone who DARES to buy a game new. Everyone cheers for (one of the daddies of gamergate) Total Biscuit’s mantra of never preorder and will insist that publishers and devs are trying to nickle and dime/steal from them for daring to release DLC for a three year old game.
And then we wonder why studios shut down.
So no, you aren’t looking for “solidarity”. You are so self obsessed with not getting what you want that you are recontextualizing it as everyone else is taking things away from you to get what they want.
Because: I would love it if there weren’t giant conglomerations of studios. But then I remember how some of the best studios out there, such as Digital Extremes and Larian, have stories of “Yeah, it was make or break and we really lucked out with getting in on the ground floor of some new concept or marketing gimmick”. Like, we would not have Baldurs Gate 3 if Larian had waited even a year or so longer before starting the D:OS kickstarter. Because rather than people saying “oh shit, we can get a new classic CRPG” it would have been “Fuck kickstarter. It is all vaporware. You are a fucking mark if you give them money”.
And if the choice is between having a different publisher on a game and hoping that enough folk from Obsidian end up in the same place to make another Pentiment or Tyranny? Fuck it, I’ll gladly let whoever keep the lights on.
Thats arguing in bad faith, given that even after the buyout, Zenimax still produced games on the other devices. Arkane Lyon (deathloop), ID interactive (Doom), Tango Gameworks(Ghost Wire Tokyo), Mojang(Minecraft) and auch still produced games for other consoles, despite being owned by Microsoft.
Microsoft puts its developers games on other devices more often than the reverse. Its only within the past few years that Sonys been putting about half of its titles on PC.
yes, this is the part where I gave up trying to say
because now fuck it, why bother. pc players and xbox players do not care as soon as they got theirs. they won’t show the same support as soon as they get their games.
Why should I show support for players on other systems, if players on other systems will not show the same support back?
Sony players don’t care as long as they get theirs
Nintendo players don’t care as long as they get theirs
Who cares? Fans will be fans.
I used to, you generally saw the sentiment of “this isn’t good for us, we dont’ want this”, now everyone is suddenly okay with one company owning all this stuff because it comes out on pc.
It’s hard to care about people complaining about exclusivity anymore, because they only care when it affects them personally.
It won’t fulfill your apparent need to have people pat you on the tummy and say you are a good boy but:
PC more or less is THE second platform (or first, with console as second) for a lot of people at this point. So if the option is:
I’ll always pick 3. Because as console prices increase? A “couple years old” gaming PC is not horrifically expensive (so long as crypto stays in the shitter…).
But also? Shit like Geforce Now and other streaming solutions means that people (who don’t live in the ass end of nowhere and have such horrible internet they wouldn’t be able to download the day one patches anyway) can play these games on their macbooks or even their chromebooks.
Okay, we know where your head is. but i’m going to engage anyway just to say that i’m looking for solidarity, and not finding it. I’m finding selfishness. Previously I was in support of not having things exclusive, I didn’t want it, It didn’t benefit me. but I’m not seeing that support back from pc gamers like you.
Do you think it’s okay for me to say “it’s okay for final fantasy games to be exclusive to one system, you should have bought a playstation”. are you happy with that statement?
Where is the “solidarity” with the devs?
People will constantly point to grey market sites like g2a and even gmg (g2a is really more of a black market site but…) and smugly mock anyone who DARES to buy a game new. Everyone cheers for (one of the daddies of gamergate) Total Biscuit’s mantra of never preorder and will insist that publishers and devs are trying to nickle and dime/steal from them for daring to release DLC for a three year old game.
And then we wonder why studios shut down.
So no, you aren’t looking for “solidarity”. You are so self obsessed with not getting what you want that you are recontextualizing it as everyone else is taking things away from you to get what they want.
Because: I would love it if there weren’t giant conglomerations of studios. But then I remember how some of the best studios out there, such as Digital Extremes and Larian, have stories of “Yeah, it was make or break and we really lucked out with getting in on the ground floor of some new concept or marketing gimmick”. Like, we would not have Baldurs Gate 3 if Larian had waited even a year or so longer before starting the D:OS kickstarter. Because rather than people saying “oh shit, we can get a new classic CRPG” it would have been “Fuck kickstarter. It is all vaporware. You are a fucking mark if you give them money”.
And if the choice is between having a different publisher on a game and hoping that enough folk from Obsidian end up in the same place to make another Pentiment or Tyranny? Fuck it, I’ll gladly let whoever keep the lights on.
Thats arguing in bad faith, given that even after the buyout, Zenimax still produced games on the other devices. Arkane Lyon (deathloop), ID interactive (Doom), Tango Gameworks(Ghost Wire Tokyo), Mojang(Minecraft) and auch still produced games for other consoles, despite being owned by Microsoft.
Microsoft puts its developers games on other devices more often than the reverse. Its only within the past few years that Sonys been putting about half of its titles on PC.
Most of those were preexisting contracts they needed to fulfill. You’re the one who’s arguing in bad faith.
Emphasis in most, they still put effort into doing so, more so than the reverse, who doesnt even touch the console side.