Israeli air strike hits the al-Ahli hospital in Gaza City where thousands are seeking safety and treatment.
  • Veltoss@lemmy.world
    9517·
    10 months ago

    Gotta love how they told people to go south then bombed them there, as well as hospitals. And they can just say every target, no matter how many civilians die, was a “Hamas target” and it’s “Hamas’ responsibility to protect civilians” while they indiscriminately bomb these civilians.

    Crazy that more people aren’t speaking up against this.

    • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
      428·
      10 months ago

      They told people to evacuate and then bombed the evacuation routes.

      Israeli spokespersons keep saying they’re fighting Nazis, but I only see Nazis on their side of this.

    • xuxebiko@kbin.social
      345·
      10 months ago

      Once Palestinians starteing evacuating North Gaza, Israel bombed the humanitarian corridor that they’d declared as safe.

      Russia did the same to Ukrainians last year and EU & NATO & UN supported Ukraine. Now they support Israel.

    • dependencyInjection@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      162·
      10 months ago

      I swear to God, I can’t name another country that takes such little criticism ever in the MSM other than Israel.

      A fucking hospital ffs.

    • AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world
      102·
      10 months ago

      For many it’s the sunk cost fallacy.

      They’ve rhetorically, unreservedly supported Israel for half a century, and they will not be reexamining those intransigent beliefs today, thank you very much.

      "The Doctor: How much blood will spill until everybody does what they’re always going to have to do from the very beginning – sit down and talk! Listen to me, listen. I just – I just want you to think. Do you know what thinking is? It’s just a fancy word for changing your mind.

      Bonnie: I will not change my mind.

      The Doctor: Then you will die stupid."

      -Steven Moffat, excerpt from Doctor Who

    • DoomBot5@lemmy.worldEnglish
      211·
      10 months ago

      Hamas car bombed the evacuation route killing many of their own citizens.

  • LollerCorleone@kbin.social
    8814·
    10 months ago

    If it was any other West Asian country doing this, the entire West would be denouncing them and taking action. But because its Israel doing it, this is fine.

    • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
      404·
      10 months ago

      Because there are consequences of you go against the grain. It’s all about money…always. Palestinians have little to no money and influence.

      • thoro@lemmy.ml
        233·
        10 months ago

        It’s sad that this type of comment can be and is often spun as “antisemitism”

        • CoderKat@lemm.eeEnglish
          8·
          10 months ago

          Agreed. It’s also frustrating that the labeling of anything anti-Zionist as anti-Semitism just gives actual anti-Semites the opportunity to claim their actual anti-Semitism is anything but.

        • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
          94·
          10 months ago

          I will never fault someone for standing up for his people. In fact, one has to admire the fact that this person put their money (and reputation) where their mouth is. We strongly disagree on the matter, but antisemitism has nothing to do with it.

          A question, for me, is where is the same pressure from other players? Where are the mega rich Arabs and Muslims pulling their funding because somebody didn’t put out a pro-Palestine message. Step up!

            • modifier@lemmy.ca
              2·
              10 months ago

              (although we should be careful not to be tricked into thinking all militants, including those giving orders, are religious extremists - reportedly Hamas’ campaign on the 7th was ordered to take hostages and not kill civilians, and that the IDF basically implemented the Hannibal Doctrine against it’s own civilians leading to significant friendly fire casualties [even as reported by an Israeli who was held hostage and later interviewed on Israeli news]; you can see how murky the waters get in a propaganda war).

              Can you share some of the reporting behind this use of ‘reportedly’. I have never seen this reported before though I am admittedly not reading everything.

              • possibly a cat@lemmy.ml
                31·
                10 months ago

                Yeah let me dig it up…

                Here we go

                Disclaimer: Regardless of how much is true or false, this article is what I would call propaganda. (Sometimes that’s all you have to work with.) I’m not sharing it under the pretenses that it is accurate or unbiased.

                • modifier@lemmy.ca
                  21·
                  10 months ago

                  It’s difficult to tell if you believe it or not because you’ve referenced it within a larger point about how much confusion there is, but it seems like you believe it enough to repeat it. If so, what about the article makes you believe it or not?

          • sadreality@kbin.social
            26·
            10 months ago

            Arabs think of palestians as white trash cousins you don’t want at your wedding…

            Also, US keeping them on a short lease with arms sales

            • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
              21·
              10 months ago

              Arabs think of palestians as white trash cousins you don’t want at your wedding…

              I have no idea if this is true or not but it seems like a gross generalization.

              Also, US keeping them on a short lease with arms sales

              Irrelevant. I’m talking about individuals not governments.

              • sadreality@kbin.social
                25·
                10 months ago

                Arab peoples and states behaviors speak for themselves.

                Fact that most most of the aid for Gaza came from the west, should be indication enough about how other Arabs feel about this issue…

                They are fine with palestiains suffering as along as Israel keep getting rockets.

    • xuxebiko@kbin.social
      297·
      10 months ago

      the toxic sludge of racism + Islamophobia = support and empowerment for Israel to ethnically cleanse Palestine of Palestinians.

      • glimse@lemmy.world
        215·
        10 months ago

        The other, possibly larger, part of it is the fear of being labeled antisemitic. Antisemitism is a huge problem all over the world but Jews aren’t to blame for what’s going on - Zionist are.

        • ALQ@lemmy.world
          53·
          10 months ago

          Yep. And yet Israel is giving the rest of the world more excuses for antisemitism. Who is even winning this “war,” other than Bibi and his toadies?

        • dontcarebear @lemmy.world
          12·
          10 months ago

          Zionism is just Israeli patriotism. The right winged theocratic lunatics are the genocidal ones. You know, like they mostly are everywhere.

          The current problem is that due to the Machiavellian prime minister of Israel, these psychos are in the government.

          Antisemitism is just a lazy excuse for unrelated issues, and another Machiavellian tool - “When the people hate you, find a scapegoat”.

    • ubermeisters@lemmy.world
      64·
      10 months ago

      It’s OK, they are others.

      I’m so fucking mad that THIS is the reason people are saying congress needs to get it’s shit together. Fuck you(them, not YOU). We shouldn’t be sending aid to anyone over there right now. It’s too messy and everyone sucks too much.

      Representatives should be working 23.5 hours a day to get this country running again FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE. Not so they can approve more money to assist Isreal in killing more civilians. Fucking absolutely indicative of the fact that We The People no longer have representation in the government. O KY rhe 1% get representation now, and they want revelations to come true so bad they will throw money at the middle East until “it happens”.

      Fuck the government, fuck the police, and fuck all these toxic ass Christians. So tired of government sponsored domestic terrorism being normalized.

    • trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      23·
      10 months ago

      I’m not so sure, we’re pretty self-absorbed in the west. I haven’t heard anything about Kurds in Syria or Saudi Arabia and Yemen lately. There is also the Rohingya in Myanmar and the Uyghur in China, though they aren’t located in West Asia.

    • sadreality@kbin.social
      520·
      10 months ago

      Have you not heard about the beheaded babies?

      Israel got blank check from rest of the world, Gaza residents will be punished and aint nobody gonna do shit. If Arab states won’t do shit, what can we expect from anyone else.

      Sucks to be a Gaza resident, but it is a small price to pay for jewish people to have their own country.

        • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
          214·
          10 months ago

          Settlers made up a lie about Hamas beheading 40 babies and tricked Biden into saying he saw pictures.

          It was later corrected: he didn’t see any pictures because there are no pictures.

        • Nix@merv.newsEnglish
          12·
          10 months ago

          A fake story used as propaganda to manufacture consent for the genocide of Palestinians. Mainstream media and celebrities were repeating it blindly a week ago saying 40 beheaded babies were found

    • dontcarebear @lemmy.world
      421·
      10 months ago

      Well, Israel is bound by international law and is a (flawed) democracy. Doesn’t excuse them from wrongdoing though, but it makes things more gray than black.

      The rest of the nation’s in the middle-east (or West Asia) are authoritarian nations that brutalize the population on occasion. Jordan in black September springs to mind as the Palestinians tried to overthrow the Jordanian rule and conquer it.

      So, yeah, it is complicated.

      • LollerCorleone@kbin.social
        20·
        10 months ago

        Well, Israel is bound by international

        The entire issue here is that they aren’t. They are openly committing war crimes in breach of international conventions and none of the self-appointed guardians of democracy in the West seem to be batting an eye.

      • ubermeisters@lemmy.world
        203·
        10 months ago

        “It’s complicated” is double speak for “if I say what I think, you people will realize how shitty my views are, and I’m unprepared to back them up with rational explinatiom because i have none”

        • dontcarebear @lemmy.world
          16·
          10 months ago

          I just pointed at a genocide perpetrated by Jordan, another west asian state. On Palestinians.

          It isn’t double speak, it is backing up a direct claim against the original claim.

          Can’t you read?

  • OurToothbrush@lemmy.mlM
    5918·
    10 months ago

    Some nerd reported the post suggesting that maybe it was a Palestinian air strike. LMAO

    • ApexHunter@lemmy.ml
      269·
      10 months ago

      Israel is claiming that some rockets launched by Hamas towards Israel went off course and hit the hospital.

      I remember Russia staging a “Ukrainian missle attack”, but they were so bad at it that the damage was on the side of buildings facing away from Ukraine. Should be pretty easy to check that here too…

      • diegeticscream[all]🔻@lemmygrad.ml
        30·
        10 months ago

        Hamas has never shown the capacity to level a full building. This war would be much shorter if they could.

        Every successful rocket strike of theirs is a simple smoking hole.

        The zionist state, on the other hand, has bombed this exact hospital before, has extensively bragged about their bombing capability, and cannot stop lying.

        This is less complicated than you’re making it out to be.

                • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
                  17·
                  10 months ago

                  I don’t doubt that. This is not me defending Israel. This is me trying to figure out what’s actually happening.

                • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
                  04·
                  10 months ago

                  My stance on the situation briefly: State of Israel shouldn’t have been put there in the first place. Zionists are religious extremists and I’m against them. Palestinians on the other hand had their land forcibly taken from them which I don’t agree with, and they have every right to be pissed about it. Hamas on the other hand is religious extremst group aswell and they’re indiscriminately murdering innocent civilians (as are the jewish extremists aswell) so I’m against them too. The only people I’m in favour here of are the millions of innocent civilians on the both sides who’d just want to be treated fairly and live peacefully.

                  So I’m biased yeah, but it’s a bit more nuanced than that.

          • SexMachineStalin [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
            21·
            10 months ago

            Ah yes because a 1,000kg bomb that took over a thousand lives in one go “might not” level an entire building. And despite reddit-logo actually celebrating, it could have been an accident.

            PIGPOOPBALLS PIGPOOPBALLS PIGPOOPBALLS PIGPOOPBALLS PIGPOOPBALLS PIGPOOPBALLS PIGPOOPBALLS

              • o_d [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
                61·
                10 months ago

                Lmao. The “I didn’t see it so it didn’t happen” defence. Take a time out and you can have a juice box 👶🧃

              • commiewithoutorgans [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                4·
                10 months ago

                Yeah the “field of bodies” video is pretty easy to find even if you’re not looking for it. I don’t blame you for not wanting to see the shit, It’s terrible. But don’t come with some fake claim that only cars can be found. “Leveled” is a word used to mean “made rubble” sometimes and “made to be as useless and dangerous as rubble” others. This is probably the latter time, but I haven’t seen videos showing the remains of the building honestly. I don’t search for this shit tho

      • FreakingSpy [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        311·
        10 months ago

        Adding to the dogpile here: IDF and Israel Twitter profiles posted videos that “proved” this, then people quoted old tweets showing that video was from the last year

  • Blursty@lemmygrad.ml
    364·
    10 months ago

    Hamas not killing more than 50 people with rockets in the last 20 years but had this hospital flattening rocket all along which they only decided to use tonight, it then blew up a hospital that just happened to be the one the Israelis told to evacuate before they bombed it. Yeah?

  • wildeaboutoskar@beehaw.org
    131·
    10 months ago

    I don’t understand a lot about this conflict but surely there can be no justification for this. Those poor people

  • Flaps [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    133·
    10 months ago

    Genocide Joe saying it wasn’t the zionist entity, but ‘someone else’.probably corn pop, he’s a bad dude, Jack biden-point