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    No indication of secondary detonation in any available video.

    Edit: the whole argument of “ammunition stores!” is in bad faith because we’ve literally spent the past two years watching munitions stores cook off in Ukraine. We know what they look like.

    Edit 2: based on audio, it’s pretty hard to argue that this is a fragment of a munition falling out of the sky lol

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      They’re not saying it’s a fragment from the iron dome stopping the missile, which happens over the desert, they’re saying it’s most likely a failed rocket launch that went off course.

      To argue that the Israelis were able to react so quickly and fire a JDAM at the hospital in response to and while the rockets were firing is itself a stretch.

      All of the available information points to it being fired from within Gaza. It’s only the armchair generals who claim to be able to identify a rocket by the sound (despite having never actually witnessed it themselves) who say otherwise.

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            1 year ago

            According to… Israel?

            Doctors from MSF are claiming 500+ casualties. What exactly do you claim caused 500+ casualties?

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              I don’t believe Israel in any of this. I believe the abundance of evidence online analysed by geeky people who know their shit.

              I don’t know who fired it, it could be Israel, but all the evidence available points to it not being a JDAM at it being something fired from within Palestine. If there is evidence to the contrary then I might change my mind, but so far I haven’t come across it, and you’re just posting in anger so it’s not like you’ve got much credibility.

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                There’s evidence of Israel bombing the hospital in the past, evidence of them demanding an evacuation, evidence of them bombing the medical director’s home because he didn’t call an evacuation, evidence of Israeli jets in the area…

                What exactly is the evidence that it isn’t a JDAM? The lack of casualties?

                Oh wait.

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                  Yep, there’s evidence of Israelis doing dodgy shit and coming up with excuses all over. So it wouldn’t be surprising if it was an Israeli attack - but that alone doesn’t mean that it is.

                  What exactly is the evidence that it isn’t a JDAM? The lack of casualties?

                  Mainly the lack of damage to anything, the nature of the explosion. JDAM’s from high up leave a big crater - there is none, nor is there significant damge to buildings. This projectile seemed to be travelling horizontally, as if it misfired in the wrong direction.

                  It looks as if it hit some cars and the conflaguration was caused by fuel burning.

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                    1 year ago

                    Explain the casualty count, then? The casualty count has been verified by MSF doctors on the ground in Gaza.

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        I’m sure the MSF is confirming 500+ dead because of no significant damage.

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        Haphazard georeferencing to other videos indicate that this image is of a different part of the hospital complex. I’m not going to link to the videos of dead and blown apart bodies because of community guidelines, but they’re out there and very clearly not in this area.

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          then how come there was no significant damage to any of the buildings and no crater?

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              I was repeating a question your previous reply did not answer.

              I have already addressed the 500+ claim as highly suspicious, given that it was stated almost immediately after the attack. You have not addressed the nature of the explosion not lining up with JDAMs.