All 10 of the largest U.S. meat and dairy companies have lobbied against environmental and climate policies, resisting climate regulations, including rules on greenhouse gases and emissions reporting. This is according to a study by New York University, which examined the political influence of the 10 largest meat and dairy companies in the United States.

  • bob_wiley@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Vegans need to make better food that can appeal to the masses, is easy to find and consume, and isn’t pretending to be meat.

    Telsa convinced the world that the electric car was viable by making a better car, not by making a shitty car and trying to guilt people into buying one… which was the approach of all the previous electric cars. If vegans want plants to catch on, they need to do the same thing. Stop trying to guilt people and make food that’s good enough that people willingly choose it over meat, because it tastes better. That should be the goal. Pretty much everything “plant-based” that’s pretending to be some other food is a non-starter. The original food is always better. Keep it natural and don’t process everything to hell, like the impossible burger… that thing is terrifying.

    If you feel like you’re dragging people kicking and screaming to Veganism, then they need a better product, it’s that simple. Get better recipes. Prove it out in some restaurants, franchise them, and have them go head to head with McDonalds. Package stuff and get it into stores and have it go head to head with all the other shit in stores. Get some marketing to convince people to get a banana instead of a candy bar, or whatever plant instead of beef jerky. That’s what it’s going to take. And if the marketing is is all about how meat is bad and people need to eat plants to save the planet… Nope. Wrong. It’s going to fail. You’re trying to go after the market that doesn’t give a shit about any of that.

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      10 months ago

      Actually, vegan meats have won multiple blind taste tests over real meat. Google it, it’s happened on multiple occasions – in actual studies as well as DIY tests.

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        10 months ago

        You’re going to need to provide a link to these studies. I tried searching and can’t find anything other than random one-off people tasting stuff, or people only tasting a bunch of different vegan options.

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      10 months ago

      Hey everyone, this person is brilliant. Let’s get cracking on making food less yucky and producing banana commercials. Gosh, what would the world do without this? The meat and dairy industry won’t know what hit them.

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        10 months ago

        That’s fine, keep doing nothing and expecting people to magically changing on their own. If that’s the route you all want to go, great, also step telling people to go vegan all the time.

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          10 months ago

          I base my actions on historical precedence. Slavery in the United States did not end by marketing abolition in a friendlier way, nor was it halted for lack of better alternatives. Civil rights were not enacted because of civil obedience.

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      10 months ago

      I’m not sure it falls on the vegans to do any of this. What should really happen is that true costs are passed along for harmful diets and instead we subsidize foods that are good for you.

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      I don’t know under which rock you have been living, but this is exactly what has been happening at a super rapid pace the last few years. I am not sure where you are from, but where I am from the vegan sections in the supermarkets are growing super fast with new and new vegan restaurants are popping up left and right.

      Take this for example: https://plantbasednews.org/news/economics/lidl-vegan-food-price-meat-equivalents/ https://plantbasednews.org/news/economics/plant-based-food-retail-sales-record/

      Also, it’s always non-vegans who complain about what vegans should do. The world is dying, hundreds of millions of animals are killed each day and vegans are trying every fucking thing they can to try and stop the hurting. Let me tell you: vegans are out on the streets demonstrating, forming political parties and lobbying, transforming the food sector, doing medical research to show the (nearly entirely positive) effects of the diet, creating recipes and cookbooks, opening restaurants, helping people make the transition, doing critical animal studies, making documentaries, going undercover in slaughterhouses and factory farms, trying to get lab grown meat onto the market, arguing on the internet, etc. You’ve got no clue how much effort is being expended to try people like you to stop being part of the problem. How about you taking some responsibility? We’ll keep trying in the mean time.