• SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca
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    Just a reminder that first nations children receive less funding per capita for education and healthcare than non-first nations children. Due to the Indian act, first nations people get their services through the federal government, unlike other Canadians who get their services through municipalities and provinces. The feds have been underfunding these services for decades.

    A lot of people seem to be under the mistaken impression that first nations people receive tons of charity or get a ton of perks. They don’t even get equal treatment, much less any advantage.

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      How can people learn about this stuff? Like how do you know all this and how can we learn or keep up with similar information?

      I would venture a guess that most Canadians probably have no idea how to learn or get themselves up to speed, I don’t think people intend to be ignorant. We just don’t know where to look or who to ask and obviously we all have our own struggles and difficulties that haunt us too even if theres no res history in our family.

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        There’s a lot of leads in the article itself. Links to other articles. CBC has an entire Indigenous section linked in the header. Go to APTN. Find out who the tribe closest to you is and go to their website. Look for “Resources” sections.

        Go to your local library’s website and search for “truth and reconciliation”. Read the recommendations. Read books and articles and watch YouTube videos discussing the recommendations. Make sure they are created by First Nations, Métis and Inuit. Go to wikipedia and search for any three of those peoples. If you’re in a densely enough populated area walk into a bookstore and find something on the display of books on the topics.

        Change your information diet so that some of the music you consume, some of the video games you play, some of the podcasts you listen to are created by indigenous communities inside Canada’s borders and around the world. Watch TV shows like Rez Dogs, graphic novels like The Outside Circle.

        If I may project a bit, it seems like it may be that you are overwhelmed about where to start, not ignorant of sources of knowledge. It doesn’t matter where you start. Pick something that catches your interest and follow threads. The only thing that can happen is that you learn something.

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    This is a good start and can be good news though for everyone. We all lose when people and institutions are insufficiently funded and people are left to fend for themselves in opportunity-variable environments.

    People who have enough and are able to have some degree of stabillity are best-positioned to figure out how Rec can be done and how we can all work together and collaborate.

    Everyone needs to have the same shared goal of lifting up everyone and make sure nobody is left behind. That seems to be a positive approach to how we can all move forward together and enrich each others lives while we learn to avoid past mistakes and pave the future path.

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      It’s a compensation agreement, not a funding agreement.

      Maybe learn the difference before going all colonialist.

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        Compensation agreement not a funding agreement

        Please see the quote from the article:

        On top of the $23 billion for compensation, the government set aside an additional $20 billion for long-term reform of the on-reserve child welfare system and family services

        Literally both compensation and a future investment effort ($20B)

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            11 months ago

            Did you get booted off the other instance you were on, or do you have alts everywhere?

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            K then quote and pick it apart. Don’t just make sweeping statements and not even bother engaging with that which you’re picking apart.

            I have zero issue with you calling me out if I’m off-base but this is literally related in the sense that its part of the overall settlement going forward using Canada’s legal system which should be accessible to everyone, particularly the Aboriginal peoples who were so blatantly wronged that there’s really no genuine disagreement on that point.

            Like its seperate from the settlement but future funding is also an important thing to arrange for and this shows that they’re working on it. Hence the quote.

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      I don’t think you meant it this way, but I feel a bit uncomfortable that your comment plays into the “corrupt First Nations” narrative.

      Of course, some First Nations have misspent funds sometimes, but so do Doug Ford and Danielle Smith. Ontario and Alberta are just rich enough to absorb mistake after mistake. Do Ontarians need oversight or can they govern themselves? Meanwhile, any mistake by First nations groups are scrutinized as moral failings, and stereotyped onto the whole racial group.

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        Can I ask totally innocently: what is the structure where Aboriginal people’s local governments like audit themselves or keep things running? I really dont mean to be picking on anybody specifically, I want to address my own ignorance (biut interest in lesrning) about these type things in line with what you mentioned. Non-Ab Canadians really have so little info or any way to know about whats going on in Reservations/Ab local governemnts.

        I’m very open to a nudge in the correct direction. I hate poverty, racial discord and unecessary suffering for anyone of any skin color or background and I’m interested in actually having a means to start educating myself. Did take Aboriginal Studies in HS but I had so much family bullshit it was impossible for me to like absorb anything so even though i got good grades, I didnt really feel I had the space and opportunity to truly learn and make the knowledge mine :(

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        Oh, I know. Don’t worry, I have zero issue holding politicians in general to task, I don’t mean to seem offensive in the way you’re concerned about. Its absolutely a fair point, I just know that this is an important time for Aboriginal/CanadianGovermment relations and I want to try to do what I can to help even out the discussion wherever I can but I worry because its absolutely something that gives a lot of ammunition to typically Right-leaning governments and their constituents and its a potent pendulum that will likely be swinging towards the other direction in the next couple years, particularly as the Right media starts harping on this settlement.

        To be honest, when I say something like that its not aimed at the people on Reservations but more towards governments or local leaders that take advantage of discord and lack of accountabillity to the effect that these folks lives never seem to get better or any easier and it causes harm to these people unduly.

        I would love to know how the average Canadian can educate themselves better or get a more nuanced understanding of relations and also actual issues that are recognized and that Aboriginal folks would be interested in non-Ab Canadians taking an interest in.

        Random question: is there like an Aboriginal Canadian Netflix type thing with shows showcasing and relevant to folks but maybe in English or at least with English subtitles? I would love to watch and get a partial snapshot through the culture if its even possible or it exists? I’d prefer like TV series so I can get an extended steeping in something thats hopefully well-regarded and representative so I’m not poisoning my mind with nonsense that doesn’t help or speak for those who it represents culturally.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The Federal Court has approved a $23 billion settlement agreement — the largest in Canadian history — for First Nations children and families who experienced racial discrimination through Ottawa’s chronic underfunding of the on-reserve foster care system and other family services.

    The settlement agreement follows a 2019 Canadian Human Rights Tribunal (CHRT) ruling that ordered Ottawa to pay the maximum human rights penalty for discrimination: $40,000 for each affected First Nations child and family member.

    The government fought the order but eventually negotiated an agreement after it faced two class action lawsuits, including one launched by the Assembly of First Nations that was later merged with another lawsuit.

    On top of the $23 billion for compensation, the government set aside an additional $20 billion for long-term reform of the on-reserve child welfare system and family services.

    More to come …


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