• Ashyr@sh.itjust.works
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    In all seriousness, who does the embargo really benefit. Maybe it made sense during the Cold War when missiles were getting moved around, but now? Someone somewhere must be profiting from it, but it’s not the American people.

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      Wikipedia » Political positions of Noam Chomsky » Views on institutions » Criticism of United States government

      His conclusion is that a consistent part of the United States’ foreign policy is based on stemming the “threat of a good example.” This ‘threat’ refers to the possibility that a country could successfully develop outside the US-managed global system, thus presenting a model for other countries, including countries in which the United States has strong economic interests.

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      Nobody. It exists solely because of American’s indoctrinated hate towards Communism.

      I guess long term you could make the argument it threatens the ruling class, because if (more) communist ideals were proven successful then more nations would implement them.

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      No one is, but my understanding is that banana companies stand to lose a ton of money if Cuba’s “”“debt”“” to the US is forgiven. Iirc Cuba has a significant outstanding debt with the US after they successfully overthrew their banana republic, because fruit companies got pissed off and shit themselves when Cuba told them to fuck off and seized their land. Said companies then went to the US government and bitched and moaned about not being able to use pseudo-slave labor for bananas anymore and the US government said, “oh, poor guys, they just wanted to grow bananas and get rich” and told Cuba it now owes the companies that were operating in Cuba a fuck ton of money. If the US government hadn’t whored out to banana companies, Cuba would probably be our weirdo little brother with strange ideas about what proper government should look like.

      It honestly weirds me out that tankies love to suck Putin and Pooh’s dick when Cuba is just right there and seems to be doing socialism right (I’ve heard Vietnam has been doing pretty well too, and genuinely likes the US despite the US-Vietnam war^1 ). My understanding is that the reason why Cuba struggles with quality of life is mainly a result of the US embargo. Hell, recently they passed a law regarding LGBT people which is supposedly one of the most progressive, if not the most progressive, set of protections for people who are LGBT in the world. Not only that, but supposedly it was the result of Cuban citizens (not politicians) getting together and deciding, collectively, that they needed better protections for people who are LGBT and received a large majority of support.

      What the fuck are you doing tankies? Why are you sucking Putin’s cock when Cuba’s over here being cool?


      ^1 I’ve been told that Vietnamese people see the war as validating (they went up against the biggest military in the world and won) and also understand that a lot of the soldiers deployed by the US didn’t actually want to be there, which is why they generally have a positive view of Americans.

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          Also “tankies” like cuba. So do leftists, and pretty much every one who doesn’t simp for capitalism. I’m pretty sure that Mossy Feathers strawman actually likes Cuba too.

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          I almost never hear about tankies (at least not the hexbear/lemmygrad type) talking about Cuba. It’s always Russia and China. I’m sure they exist, but why do they like idolizing Russia and China? It makes no sense.

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            Because Cuba is not often a major player in world events, like Russia and the PRC are currently. Cuba is involved in quite a few discussions in communist theory. I also don’t really see what you mean regarding idolizing, they just have quite a different viewpoint.