I don’t see why you assume that they adhere to horseshoe theory. How I understood them was an attempt to call out the discrepancy between being commie while supporting a fascist regime, albeit the killing part was not tasteful, but again no worse than “the only good nazi is a dead nazi”.
I looked through a lot of their comments and saw an abundance of “killing” statements, mostly against CEOs of oil companies and such. As a figure of speech, I do think it is fine. I for one will not pretend I have not said anything similar about the capitalist class. To me it seems you are reacting to who they said it about, and then I think we need to try to understand rather than mischaracterize: If not just swallowing the rage bait of OP (sorry OP, but I think it is) and actually investigating the convo, it should be clear that they are conflating their belief that OP is acting in support of a fascist regime with OP being actual fascist and subsequently saying that fascists got to be removed. Irony is that if MonsieurHedge had bothered reading OP’s comments better and not get a rage boner, they would too see that OP is not a fascist pretending to be commie as they claim in another comment.
I want to respond to this comment telling you that you should be killed for something you said, to make a point, but I won’t because it’s gross. You’re a human being, I’m a human being, and neither of us are fascists. It would not be fun for either of us to receive a reply, ostensibly from a ‘comrade’, that us and our kind deserve to be exterminated.
It seems to me Monsieur is immature and uneducated, especially if they are equivocating critical support for Russia to fascism, or even accusing Russia of being a fascist state when compared to, idk, any other European nation. They need to log off and reflect on the way they interact with others.
That’s like saying “as an anarchist how can you support the oppressed rising up if the organization is hierarchical” (not that some anarchists don’t agree with that logic, but there are also better and anti-imperialist ones that don’t). “If you’re not at your goal every step of the way are you really trying to achieve your goal?”
You are not wrong. However, it is also possible to through such questions pose valid problems such as whether the organization is going in the right direction and is it actually making progress. My main issue is with the comment I responded to reducing the dissenting voice to a stupid fallacy along with the sentiment of "I am smart and they are notslamdunk ".
That is an okay assessment. I would generally dismiss anyone calling to kill anyone for whatever reason, but as I wrote in another comment this person did not seem to me to call for killing anyone as much as using it as part of a vernacular of who needs to be dealt with to fix society, which is frequently employed by leftist in various forms (usually with respect to the bourgeoisie). I think people from Lemmygrad should not be surprised that others are disgusted when they voice support of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine on other instances. That it isn’t more of a controversial subject here is to me a little surprising, speaking from both an ideological and pragmatic point of view. Not that this excuses the “need to be killed” comment, but I do think the context is important and that OP took the exact excerpt needed to incite rage and that this was done purposefully.
I don’t see why you assume that they adhere to horseshoe theory. How I understood them was an attempt to call out the discrepancy between being commie while supporting a fascist regime, albeit the killing part was not tasteful, but again no worse than “the only good nazi is a dead nazi”.
Not tasteful? He told a communist user directly that they needed to be killed.
If not a fascist, if not a liberal, just a fucking moron. Regardless, a provocateur, and he deserves ceaseless mockery.
I looked through a lot of their comments and saw an abundance of “killing” statements, mostly against CEOs of oil companies and such. As a figure of speech, I do think it is fine. I for one will not pretend I have not said anything similar about the capitalist class. To me it seems you are reacting to who they said it about, and then I think we need to try to understand rather than mischaracterize: If not just swallowing the rage bait of OP (sorry OP, but I think it is) and actually investigating the convo, it should be clear that they are conflating their belief that OP is acting in support of a fascist regime with OP being actual fascist and subsequently saying that fascists got to be removed. Irony is that if MonsieurHedge had bothered reading OP’s comments better and not get a rage boner, they would too see that OP is not a fascist pretending to be commie as they claim in another comment.
I want to respond to this comment telling you that you should be killed for something you said, to make a point, but I won’t because it’s gross. You’re a human being, I’m a human being, and neither of us are fascists. It would not be fun for either of us to receive a reply, ostensibly from a ‘comrade’, that us and our kind deserve to be exterminated.
It seems to me Monsieur is immature and uneducated, especially if they are equivocating critical support for Russia to fascism, or even accusing Russia of being a fascist state when compared to, idk, any other European nation. They need to log off and reflect on the way they interact with others.
Thanks, I agree and Monsieur should go touch some grass.
That’s like saying “as an anarchist how can you support the oppressed rising up if the organization is hierarchical” (not that some anarchists don’t agree with that logic, but there are also better and anti-imperialist ones that don’t). “If you’re not at your goal every step of the way are you really trying to achieve your goal?”
You are not wrong. However, it is also possible to through such questions pose valid problems such as whether the organization is going in the right direction and is it actually making progress. My main issue is with the comment I responded to reducing the dissenting voice to a stupid fallacy along with the sentiment of "I am smart and they are notslamdunk ".
I still think it’s valid to dismiss someone who calls for killing communists because they critically support Russia.
That is an okay assessment. I would generally dismiss anyone calling to kill anyone for whatever reason, but as I wrote in another comment this person did not seem to me to call for killing anyone as much as using it as part of a vernacular of who needs to be dealt with to fix society, which is frequently employed by leftist in various forms (usually with respect to the bourgeoisie). I think people from Lemmygrad should not be surprised that others are disgusted when they voice support of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine on other instances. That it isn’t more of a controversial subject here is to me a little surprising, speaking from both an ideological and pragmatic point of view. Not that this excuses the “need to be killed” comment, but I do think the context is important and that OP took the exact excerpt needed to incite rage and that this was done purposefully.