• Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Because with capitalism, the greed is out in the open. Everyone understands it. It is clear and legal to push against the greed of those who have more.

    In a system that incentivizes “virtues”, greed will hide behind those virtues. And when you then fight against that greed, you are accused of attacking those virtues instead.

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      1 year ago

      Absolutely. Greed will always exist and evil people will always take advantage of others. May as well lay everyone’s cards on the table.

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        Hey, that makes sense. Now, in this capitalist system that exists in real life—the one that you think is working out better than any alternatives you can think of—are everyone’s cards laid out?

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          Yes…? We are aware of how bad we’re being fucked. We saw the Panama papers. Rich people dodge taxes with loopholes. War is waged to line pockets. Senators practice insider trading. Huge, major problems exist with capitalism and of course, we can’t know the full extent. What do you think would be different under your preference?

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            Yes? It’s that obvious? What percentage of the population knows how the animals they consume are raised and slaughtered, or that it’s illegal to show them? What percentage knows that in many other nations, the burger flipping jobs the U.S. loves to debate do pay better, and yet the food is cheaper? What percentage is aware that many European nations simply do not allow large corporations like Google and Facebook to “own” your data, and that they do not have some sort of inherent right to it? All of these things are legal—passing laws to hide information you don’t like, having no obligation to pay livable wages or provide healthcare, lining your pockets with money nobody else knew you could just… take. Seems like a system in which these actions weren’t both legal and highly rewarded could, you know, put more of the cards on the table.

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              I asked you what would be different under your preferred alternative to capitalism and you’ve responded with policy from other capitalist nations. Perhaps the ideas you have presented are not solutions to capitalisms failings but instead just good ideas that can coexist within a capitalist society. I’m really not sure I understand your point but feel free to clarify if you’d like to continue the discussion.

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                It’s almost like capitalism just means that people exchange money for goods and goods for money and everything else is up to people to decide.

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                  Chiming in to a conversation with a weak point, just to have no one respond to you.

                  No wonder you haven’t made so many comments today. This poor troll is starving because he’s having a hard time getting people to take the bait. Anyway, see you tomorrow buddy. I hope for your sake you do better next time

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          I’m allowed to go take out a loan and start my own business to be a piece of shit like every other business owner and noone will stop me from doing so.

          Noone will stop you either, question is why you aren’t dealing your cards.

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            How would you even have the time to do that? You’re preoccupied picking random fights on the internet. So why aren’t you dealing your cards?