This is beautiful! I love data and I’m delighted you were inspired by my post to gather the data.

Thank you for doing this!

I’m not sure. Perhaps “Captain and Crew Test” isn’t the right way to look at it either. ST:LD seems to do a good job of not focusing too much on one story or character per episode, so it avoids failure even if every character is “the captain”.

There would have to be some way of reworking the criteria to evaluate overall balance (as mentioned elsewhere in this thread) rather than just Captain and Crew, I guess.

Regardless, that’s a really good question. Hmmmm

I love this! Now you need to do an analysis like this one on Star Trek and the Bechdel-Wallace test!

TOS is already a rough rewatch with some of its acting and portrayals of the future. I can’t imagine how tough it would be to rewatch it through that lens. Haha!

I realize you’re not trying to predict quality, just personal enjoyability, but I do wonder how it relates to quality.

I don’t mean for this to measure quality. To each their own, as they say. After all, it is just entertainment and I’m free to watch anything else or skip this or that episode. This is all just a fun observation for me, much like a discussion on the finer points of warp theory or Federation economics.

Still, I’m glad it’s something that clicked for you too. I figured there would be a number of people whose appreciation of Trek relates to this “test”.

… Even then, I believe [TOS] would have a pretty low “pass” rate compared to all the '90s series.

Agreed. I note elsewhere in this thread that I think TOS would struggle with this little “test” and it was THE Star Trek show when it all started.

(Incidentally, since Burnham wasn’t Captain until season 4, Discovery passes on a technicality for most of its run).

Indeed it would pass and I think the captains/crew of those seasons were well portrayed and balanced Burnham’s presence as a character as well.

I’ve seen this complaint a lot with some of the newer shows, but it doesn’t really resonate with me. A good central character ought to be able to carry a show, and I don’t hold Trek as being inherently different in that regard.

As you say. And to be clear, I’m not taking this too seriously, nor is it meant to be a complaint. Just a measure I noticed in my own mind. I am still watching all the Star Trek made, whether it “passes” this measure or not.

Definitely and many that fail. I wonder if it works as a measure based on percentage of the show as a whole. Then again, it really doesn’t matter at all; I only noticed that I get annoyed with certain shows which overuse a single savior for the show’s overall story.

I like that too. I’m not sure it would counter these “rules”.

How would you propose phrasing a rule for that non-Fed criteria?

To be fair, I think every series has a lot of episodes that would fail this test, some of which were excellent, like DS9’s “In the Pale Moonlight”, and “Far Beyond the Stars” or TNG’s “The Inner Light”, but if used to assess a series, I think this could be a good metric.

Indeed, “In the Pale Moonlight” is one I thought of which fails as well. I still think it makes a good measure to see how many episodes of a show pass/fail overall. Only to see if it’s really about the whole crew or mostly one character. (Arguably, early TNG comes really close to being Star Trek: Wesley while mid/late TNG comes close to Star Trek: Data.)

I agree with and second many of your statements in here. Well said! A couple specific points I want to highlight:

Paul and Hugh

I really enjoyed those plots, especially about loss.

There was also no single overarching plot, so Picard could play a flute and live the life of an alien for a whole episode without derailing any story plans. The “monster of the week” approach also helped inspire some real good moral and philosophical debate that would otherwise never would’ve been written into a single story, but also some of the most cringeworthy TV I’ve seen.

I think this is the core of the issue for what I enjoy and don’t enjoy with many Star Trek shows. Surprisingly to me, Expanse does this fine whereas Trek/Who/SG-1 would trip over it and have.

In general, great reply with excellent points. Thank you!

Here’s an addendum with a few great episode examples which might pass my “test”.

• TOS: “Amok Time”, (arguably) “The Galileo Seven”
• TNG: “Brothers”, “Lower Decks”, “The Measure of a Man”
• DS9: “It’s Only A Paper Moon”, “Improbable Cause”+“The Die Is Cast”, “The Magnificent Ferengi”

Other shows also have great episodes that pass, but I want to stop here for my examples so as to avoid showing my hand (too much) and stating which show(s) I think fail.

I remember enjoying the Temporal Recruit storyline. I had a bit of fun with mine, naming it “Redshirt” and giving it the torn red uniform costume. Haha

I’m really looking forward to this one. I enjoy the look of the Obelisk Carrier. Not sure yet what I’ll do with it, but it’ll be a nice thing to have parked in the garage. Haha

I definitely would like more team uniforms and some other vanity options too. The pets and such are fun, but I want more costume items.

• Enjoy beach activities on Risa and earn a Vovin Obelisk Carrier (T6) from July 2nd at 8am PT to August 1st at 12pm PT.

I just watched a CasualSAB mentioning that and came here to edit. Think I should just delete the post?

I don’t think you need to watch Discovery to enjoy Strange New Worlds. There might be a few things established in the lore/backstory from Discovery, but any “confusion” from those references will quickly dissipate. SNW makes it easy to see it as a distinct show in a new/expanded telling of a known crew/time.

I will add that there will be stylistic choices in the production that will take a little getting used to, but remember that just about every Star Trek show has done this. Enjoy the story!

Cryptic has now updated the post (and release timing) such that these are now for 5/31/24

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Summarizing some of the notes. The "General" section is copy-pasted verbatim.

Event – Delete Alt Control:

• Content added for the Feature Event, including new TFOs
• For more information, please visit the “Delete Alt Control” blog.

New Content:

• New Episode – Situation Under Control
  • The Aetherians will send you on a mission with one of their own into a new universe, and you must join forces to stem the tide of a new Borg foe!
• Captain Alteration Token

General:

• The Exeter variant of the Cruiser family has been totally remastered. Its model has been rebuilt to Star Trek Online’s current visual standard and its material has been updated to use the Odyssey hull and windows materials. All ships in the Cruiser family now have access to the Odyssey hull and window options as well. As with all remasters, this update is free to everyone who owns the skin. Simply ready a ship in the cruiser family and apply the Exeter template in the ship customization interface to see the changes.
• Resolved an issue that was causing the Item Tooltips to disappear from the Tier 5 Dyson Console Set items, when equipping 3 or 4 pieces of their Set.

I’m not sure if I claimed them either; now that you mention it.

Star Trek Online is releasing a brand new Task Force Operation with the launch of Star Trek Online: Unparalleled! Called “Borg Battle Royale,” this TFO will charge you with facing increasingly difficult waves of Borg, and see how long you can survive. Similar to both the Kobayashi Maru and Arena of Sompek TFOs, the event version of this TFO will end at a predetermined point – level 7. However, once the event is over, the TFO will have no set end, and Captains will see how long they can last against the Federation’s ultimate enemy. Ready your resistance.

Ooo! I missed this one. I’ll look forward to claiming the ship!

(I’ll post a TLDR bullet-point momentarily.)