do anybody realy care if poster have checked votes he got on a post? Who of the readers care?
If readers vote and no one checks, there would be no point. I just look at what gets upvotes and try to post more of that type of content so that readers will have more posts to look through the next time they visit that they’re more likely to like (or if they don’t, they know to block that community and move on).
The popularity of my posts or the total number of funny Internet points is meaningless to me. I do not need it to be “popular” or “viral”, nor is Lemmy a good platform to try that (especially on LemmyNSFW, which is defederated by some other notable instances).
I personally gain nothing by posting; if anything, I’d rather by downloading more hentai instead of posting it myself. I only do this because I want other people to join me and share content so that I can eventually download their posts myself somewhere besides Reddit, which has only gotten worse at that.
pointing to such public discusion with public votes.
Public discussion with public votes is limited, but readers still retained the ability to comment with their disagreements in the official announcement posts and the follow-up poll leading up to relaxing downvote restrictions to community members:
- Semi-public - Is it worth having downvotes?
- An update on our community regarding downvotes
- [POLL] Allowing downvotes only to community members
Re: Downvotes
Freedom of expression is important, and is part of why you and I are here, but freedom cannot exist without some limits. Downvotes were disabled for a number of reasons, but the biggest one I could see was that some types of content get substantially downvoted despite being appropriate for their communities. How can members of that community express what they like if other, potentially uninvolved people, keep downvoting it?
It’s not about “protecting snowflakes”, but instead, just making room for other communities and interests. No one’s asking you or anyone to go love every single fetish out there, just leave’em alone if you’re not interested.
For me, it has been a successful change. Content that fits in the communities I’m involved in continue to see better upvote counts, while content that doesn’t is seeing next to none (or even negative).
Re: Back To Original Topic
In my original post, I cited both reasons to go back to Reddit or stay on LemmyNSFW for NSFW content. I think we both know we disagree on the topic of downvotes, so let’s not get stuck on that. Is there anything else you wanted consider that we haven’t discussed?
EDIT: Accidentally cut out my note about why votes matter and never added it back in. Fixed. EDIT2: Clarified “who of the readers care?”
I don’t think you need to know who I am or who is posting (and if you did, you should go elsewhere, as you noted). It’s enough that you and I are thinking about how votes fit in the community aspect of things (aka sorting things out “naturally” without a special care).
I mistook your stance on downvotes as being all or nothing - if we’re both on votes only being for community members (and I’m still open to putting it back to everyone if/when this instance is bigger), then we’re on the same page.
I do agree that it may have been hasty to enact the initial downvote restriction without any broader vote. I managed to get my input in, but I that was only on the ModCoord comm I linked you. There was some additional discussion on Matrix, but I only saw that after the fact. I only visit once or twice a day to post and take breaks when my life is busy, so I was also surprised to see the announcement when I came back. The second vote also didn’t include a “no restrictions” vote either, so I suppose that wasn’t an option they wanted to explore.