Well Ive not quite made it to 100000mi on the odometer. It’s likely I’ll be able to take it to 200000 with the same sort of range I have now… So that’s about 10-12 years of life for me without a worry. Maybe it goes more, maybe I get in an accident before 2029 (10years of use and I’ll be around 150000mi or less).

Ive heard people are scared of the batteries. But that fear doesn’t match what I’ve experienced. I had a recall on mine that was not big deal. it’s really not as concerning as it’s made out to be. I’m mostly hoping there’s a better recycling system in place when I do actually need a new battery, just show I know the old one is taken care of properly. But likely the rest of the car will wear out first.

Ps I don’t drive much during the week, longer weekend drives, and then long drives a few times a year.

I have a 2017 bolt EV - bought used, not one that is advertised as having great mileage even in 2017. I routinely take it 400-500mi plus drives with one or maybe two charge stops for vacation and family trips. Middle of ME to the southern tip of NJ. My home is somewhere in the middle.

Charged off my 110 outlet since I got to car (about 4 years) up to last month Oct 2023 when I got a 220v outlet installed as part of another project. One charge was enough for the week. Occasionally I’d plug in at work or at a friends. Worst case actually pay $5-9 for a DC quick charge if I know I’m doing a long drive. All that is way easier if you just have a place to plug in consistently at home.

I don’t get the negativity most people have twords EVs. Everyone is astounded when I say I just plug it into the wall and have to plan longer trips slightly more, like that’s not news anymore.

And there’s a bunch more DC chargers than when I first started driving an EV - so it’s wayyy easier for new folks to adopt.

Okay we can all go home. Fal says “C is MUCH better.” Argument over

Meaningful to you. not to most folks.

Oh I gotcha now, agreed

Ehhhh conviction isn’t super admirable if it’s something stupid.

I don’t think a flat earther’s conviction is admirable.

But at least theyre less stupid than flat earthers… So far…

Ps I’m starting think Fal is losing it in this comment section…

Correct I literally can’t tell the difference. That’s 100% what I’m saying. (Yeap that was sarcasm)

I’m saying 68 and 86 are both T-shirt weather. And 20-30 is more meaningful to me than 68-86. That’s it. That’s all.

Yes I mistyped 80vs86. but that percentage of 100 is similar enough that I can’t really tell the difference.

I was agreeing that 68 and 86 are both T-shirt weather. Still is to most folks. I get it you’re not most folks.

I’m imagining your place as just filled with coats and thermometers that you care about this to such an extent.

Yes obviously.

68-80 are similar temps. I’m comfy at both. I wear the same thing outdoors at both temps.

I’m sorry you don’t I guess and are offended that someone else is different than you.

20-30 is easier to understand than 68-80 for most people (obviously there’s an exception)

68 is shorts and T-shirt weather in my part of the world. No one carries a jacket around if it’s that warm. Maybe it’s cold to you if you live between the tropics? I can’t speak to that

20-30c is a cool shortcut that F doesn’t really have. The original comment says it’s just a decent guideline and “I just don’t believe that you can’t understand” what a guideline is. But if you need all this stuff to exist outside in nice weather maybe a quick guideline is not for you…

68f is for sure t-shirt weather. 86f is for sure T-shirt weather.

Who TF bundles up if it’s 86 deg.

Super confused, you bundle up at 68f for normal ideal summer temps? Or is 68-86 Gigantic enough you need long sleeves? Or like just low keyed afraid are you of the outdoors at 20c? Spoiler alert… It’s nice?

Yea it’s basically a not mini mini split.

We looked into doing a ducted heat pump through the attic for the top floor. But it quickly brought the project into the 50k range for what amounted to a slightly better looking design.

5 indoor units, 2 outdoor units, new water tank, electric work, boiler and oil tank both got to get chopped up safely before being brought out. Went through several vendors to get the project under 30k.

And it’s New England so the heat pumps have to be hyper heat units that function in winter. We are getting units that will heat to 70 degrees inside at -13deg outside and functions down to -22. (All F)

I’m going through this right now with my state (MA). After a lot of talking and finding non-shit vendors and quotes and stuff I’ve got an application into the state program. About $28k total to remove oil from my home completely in favor of heatpumps and a new water heater. State will give us a 10k rebate and a loan where they pay 7 years of interest. So that works out to 10k upfront we get back and then 7 years of $225/month payments.

We pay $300/month for oil. And that price is always getting higher.