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A. Not a “dude”
B. I’ll pose the same rhetorical as I did to the other person that didn’t think popularity was support:
If you see two pieces of identical software, one with 1000 downloads and one with 100,000, which would you choose?
A. Not a “dude”
B. I’ll pose the same rhetorical as I did to the other person that didn’t think popularity was support:
If you see two pieces of identical software, one with 1000 downloads and one with 100,000, which would you choose?
I’m not sure of the origin, but that is a fair point. I typically us it in the context of there is no way to find a harm free source of anything in a capitalist society, so you have to find the path with the least amount of harm in it. That is basically what you are saying, but just tweaking the stated definition of ethical.
What? It was your hypothetical
If you see two pieces of identical software, one with 1000 downloads and one with 100,000, which would you choose?
Wow, what a slippery slope you’ve made.
Adding to popularity does support them.
Sure, there is no ethical consumerism under capitalism. But I can do harm reduction. When someone says or does something shitty, I can avoid or stop using their product. In your example, if a road worker came out publically with some transphobic nonsense, I could raise that to my local road authority and they would likely lose their job. Are there more people that have shitty views in this theoretical? Maybe, but they will be less likely to spew them if they know there are consequences.
Oh nice. Hadn’t heard a platform had been decided upon.
“What about the good things Hitler did?” Is not the flex you think it is. Also, using the Autobahn does send support to Nazis
Good news, most folks at beehaw know and the admins have decided to move to a new platform
I wasn’t attempting to start a debate, just talking about things i saw him do that could be reasons this would get reported. For the record, i was not one of the folks that reported it. I am willing to give some leeway when someone with a huge platform is edifying marginalized people.
Vaush is a divisive person, and has a checkered past. I’m glad to hear he has changed, but I, and probably quite a few folks, stopped paying attention to him when he was doing his edgy thing
I think you read into something I didn’t say. I never said we should remove this video. I was giving context for the reports mods were getting
I mean, he used to rant about how it is OK for white people to say the n word, though he has changed tune on that. He has also miscategorized the land back movement, and called one of his black guests pro-genocide because she dared to talk about black liberation. Oh, then his followers harrased her for it even though she said nothing of the sort. Those are just the things I have personally seen.
I think the issue is the inclusion of Vaush since he has said/done some pretty racist things and his audience tends to dogpile on folks.
I did not say anything about cis people though? In the paragraph I quoted above, You made a distinction between people that use lower case and upper case pronouns. The distinction You made is that because people that use lower case pronouns are “used to being catered to by society” (which is very untrue in the case of trans people, us nonbinary folks in particular) we have tend to get more upset when misgendered. My point is that this is very condescending, and seems to be saying that people that use uppercase are more reasonable about it. You have been kind of dancing around that point in the last couple responses without actually addressing the condescension.
I think You missed my point entirely. The language You used in the paragraph I quoted is condescending. You may not have meant to do that, but the result makes it seem like You are talking down to people that use lower case pronouns (or have not thought about/care about capitalization). Even if it is only a small part of Your experience, the language used makes it seem like folks that use lower case are more prone to outburst.
Us CPUs have accepted that We’re going to have to ask for Our pronouns to be used, and that it’s easier for everyone if We just let the LPUs have this. Maybe in the future it’ll be different, but I really don’t want to be dragged into an argument by an LPU who takes offense and decides to make a scene instead of just asking to have their pronouns respected. I’ve been in that situation before.
I know You say it is not about a power dynamic, but this statement is condescending as all get out. It makes people that use lower case pronouns seem petulant and childish because we get upset when we get misgendered. It smacks of not leveling the same amount of respect to others as You demand they pay to You
Which is why I followed it up by saying the best we can do is harm reduction by choosing the less harmful paths when we find them. Nothing you are saying is different to what I said, just a different wording