One other Lemmy instance is on 0.19.4, and that also has the same problem:

Ungoogled Chromium: the create post form erases the fields after tabbing out of them. Tor Browser (firefox based): no issues with the create post form.

Now slrpnk is on 0.19.5, along with two other Lemmy nodes I tested this on. The create post form is working in this version with Ungoogled Chromium.

timeline selector broken

There is another problem that was introduced with version 0.19.4 and still persists in 0.19.5: There are four possible timeline views: subscribed, local, all, moderator view. That selector is broken in Ungoogled Chromium 112 but not in Firefox-based browsers. In UC, I click “moderator view” and the button highlights as I click it, the page refreshes, but the selector does not stick. It is trapped in the “local” view and only shows the local timeline.

This problem is replicated in other 0.19.4 and 0.19.5 instances.

update

Actually there is still a problem with 0.19.4 w.r.t. post creation. And this affects Firefox too: if I use the cross-post feature to copy the post elsewhere, the form is populated just fine but then I have to search for the target community at the bottom of the form. As soon as I select the target community, the whole rest of the form clears. I have not yet tested this specific scenario in 0.19.5.

I started with the “Browser Default” theme.

Which browser did you try to replicate it in?

i just switched to hanubeki cold. Same problem.

Also another problem I forgot to mention: the main timeline is trapped on the local view. When I click on all, subscribed, or moderator view, there is no effect. The button highlights in parallel to the local button, but does not stick. It just refreshes the local timeline.

not sure what you mean by “doesn’t prevent using the function entirely.” Do you mean the function is available for those who install another browser? My current theory is that the create post function is 100% broken for Ungoogled Chromium users, but probably operational for people running 3rd party clients or Firefox. Considering Ungoogled Chromium is based on the single most popular browser (Chromium), vanilla Chromium users are probably also impacted, which seems serious.

The form should probably display a loud warning about this. Someone might opt to write the body of their post as a very first step, before the title. They could put a substantial effort into writing a long text and then see it all vanish the instant they click the title field. Nothing is worse than seeing one’s work thrown away like that.

I would roll back to the previous version if there is no fix for this.

(edit) Are there any stats kept on user agent strings? It might give a clue on the number of users affected.

For the past few days, the “create post” form is usually broken. After entering a title I hit tab to the next field and the title is instantly erased upon shifting the focus to another field. The form is unfillable.

I was able to post once after this behavior started for no apparent reason. No idea how to reproduce that.

It’s worth noting that submitting comments in existing posts is not a problem.

Browser: Ungoogled Chromium 112

(edit) after more thought, I think that one time I was able to post was probably done using Tor Browser, not UC.

I’m ideologically opposed to anything that prevents an adult from doing what they want to their own body.

A couple other comments seem to imply this a full-blown prohibition as well. To be clear, my interpretation is that this is not a total prohibition. From the article:

The government is set to introduce a historic new law to stop children who turn 14 this year or younger from ever legally being sold cigarettes in England, in a bid to create the first ‘smokefree generation’.

So IIUC, there is no possession or consumption offense, and anyone at any age can grow their own or import¹ it. They’re just making it inconvenient to acquire by controlling commerce. That inconvenience will certainly add to the cool factor of kids who become the resourceful hookup.

¹ I suppose they will be able to carry it into the country, but probably legit mail order shops will be controlled. Not sure.

On the other hand, a complete ban on smoking in public spaces could be helpful ? I’m not certain if it has been tried

IIRC, the smoking ban in restaurants and bars started in CA or NY, then swept around the world from there. Then NY supposedly banned smoking near outdoor bus stops or something. Not sure if that experiment spread.

I doubt vaping has the health consequences that cigs do. Baking the plant at a precise temperature needed to just release the desired chemicals instead of burning it and releasing all toxins presumably would result in less cancer. Cigs also have filters that attempt (and fail) to trap the unwanted chemicals and iirc there’s also some recent research that the filters themselves have some negative health consequences.

Note I’ve not studied this in depth but that’s my off-the-cuff understanding.

I can kinda support raising the ages for drugs, alcohol and tobacco to 19, 21 or even 25. Major human brain development is still ongoing until about 25. Or perhaps restricting the quantity they can buy.

There was some research finding that people who use psychedelic mushrooms are made more psychologically flexible (open minded) for the rest of their life. But the caveat is that the permanent open mindedness effect only happens if the shrooms are consumed before age 35 – presumably precisely because the brain still has significant neuroplasticity.

I have to correct myself after making a new discovery about #Lidl:

• Lidl owner invests lots of money on Israeli tech companies → https://boycott.thewitness.news/target/lidl
• Lidl produce comes from Israel → https://politics.ie/threads/israeli-produce-in-lidl.215241/
• Lidl caught mislabeling Israeli-sourced food to deceive boycotters → https://www.rt.com/business/587182-france-mislabeling-israeli-products/

/cc @punkisundead@slrpnk.net

To a capitalist, there is no good shoplifting.

You’ve misunderstood the thesis of the post.

Nobody’s going to check the expiration dates on what you stole before arresting you.

Only cops can make an arrest where I am and there is only an occasional security contractor at the shops.

You don’t think the moment store staff sees and reacts that I will be able to get a word in edgewise about the date before police even arrive? You don’t think the value of stolen goods are relevant when a judge enters a judgment amount?

You took stuff off their shelves that they could have sold

Nonsense. Not in the face of the law.

I once asked if I could get the zero waste pricing on something that was a day past expiry. They confiscated the food from me and told me they cannot sell it to me. Don’t you think it might be illegal for a grocer to knowingly and willfully sell expired food? Do you think they would actually try to present as an argument to a judge that they could have sold something that expired?

In the US, I once discovered I bought several things that expired and brought it back because I was not happy to pay regular price for expired food. They would not negotiate a markdown but took it back and refunded the price I paid times two, and the CSR asked me to bring her to where that item was so she could remove the other expired packages.

come on, do you really think stores pull expired product the day it expires?

You either have an absurd amount of confidence in their competency or an unrealistic and unhealthy presumption of malice toward customers by min wage workers just trying to get through their day. I’ve seen enough to know that they pull items when they notice. I sometimes see them carting off food and marking down food near expiry. They don’t have an inventory system that tracks expiration dates and sends notifications. This isn’t Wal·Mart – It’s a manual human effort to check all those dates which are not well visible. The reason food makes it to the date of expiry is because they sometimes miss things days earlier that they need to mark down 30%. I’m not sure how to convince you there is no conspiracy. They are busy. I never see them standing around or idling.

I entered this thread thinking it would be about squatting. E.g. bank forecloses on a house, kicks out the previous owner, then the bank becomes insolvent itself and bought out by another bank. The new bank loses track of the property. “Shoplifter” moves in, lives there X number of years. Documents their conquest. Then files a paper for ~$50 or so claiming ownership under adverse property rights.

This exact thing happened in Florida. A black guy squatted in a house. White neighbors were furious that they had to pay ~¼—½ million for their homes that the squatter paid ~$50 for.

dedicating an entire community to the stance seems a bit much

That’s crazy talk. There are so many dynamics to non-voting that I’m not even convinced that 1 community is enough. This one community has to accommodate:

• advocacy of not voting (Anarchy promotion)
• problems voting & countless forms of voter suppression (my situation)
• voter turnout discussions and consequences of not voting in nations where voting is obligatory (Belgium and Australia)
• hopelessness of voting in regions where voting merely legitimizes dictatorships (China, Russia)
• alternatives to voting (e.g. consumer actions)
• Non-voting as a means to compel positive change (e.g. 97,000 Michigan dems and pro-Palestinians threatening to not vote unless Biden changes his policy in Israel)

I’m not an anarchist but found it interesting to read their rationale for opposing voting and elections.

I’m personally very pro-voting

Then you should be very interested in the 2nd bullet. There are LOT of non-voters in the US and it leads to scumbags taking power (e.g. 2016 POTUS). You should want to see people discussing the low voter turnout problem that helps the republicans.

I don’t imagine that Whole Foods is for poor people, but I’ve not been in there for a long time. I recall that it was higher end, and yet unethical at the same time once Amazon became the owner.

You have enough financial security that you can buy from “ethical” stores even if they’re more expensive than other options.

In the grocery markets, that does not seem to be the case. I’m now well outside Whole Foods regions and shop on a tight budget and see good deals at all the grocers (those I boycott and those I don’t). I’ve made somewhat a game of eating cheaply. For the past year, my daily food cost is ¾ the cost of a Big Mac. And yet I still manage to (what some would consider) over-eat.

You have reliable enough transportation that you can get to “ethical” stores even if they aren’t within walking distance or on public transit lines.

I’m in the city. There are mom & pop grocers walking distance from my house. Apart from that I can reach all shops by bicycle about equally.

You have the time, and energy, and information resources, to identify what stores meet your ethical code and what don’t.

Grocers are different in this regard. I take the time to dig up dirt on tech companies but identifying bad grocers doesn’t require time and effort. The info just comes to you. I see “boycott store X” in graffiti all over town along with a dedicated URL for it. I don’t think grocers need any kind of deep probing, AFAICT. Most of my extensive ethics research is on brands that are in the shops. Every shop has Nestlé, Unilever, Proctor & Gamble, etc.

That’s all privilege. You realize that’s all privilege, right?

This doesn’t obviate anything I said. It’s orthogonal to the issue. Your mind was boggled because customers rat out shoplifters. I unboggled it. There is not enough price variation from one grocer to another that would push poor consumers one direction or the other depending on their budgets. There are some small boutique-eske bio shops which have higher prices but that’s not where I’m drawing lines.

What you’re saying is more of what I see with online shopping. Poor people need Amazon. I boycott Amazon. OTOH, I’ve chosen a simple life and hardly buy anything non-essential anyway, unless it’s 2nd hand from the street markets.

Stealing /anything/ from Nestlé is doing a good service to the world. Doesn’t matter if you use it, resell it, or just trash it.

Stealing a Nestlé something from a shop is a bit complicated but you could say fuck that shop for having Nestlé in their supply chain.

I wouldn’t give a shit if someone shoplifts from (e.g.) Whole Foods (aka Amazon). But then WTF am I doing in there in the 1st place if I have a problem with that store?

Ethical consumers boycott the worst companies and patronize the lesser of evils. We don’t feed the stores we have contempt for in the first place, so there is never a circumstance where I would witness a shoplift from a shitty merchant. When I see a shoplift happening, it would generally only be in a shop that I consider relatively progressive and decent (one that I chose to set foot in).

BTW, I can’t do videos so apologies if I’m missing the context. Just replied to the title.

You can see below in this thread herein that someone got >10 downvotes for a perfectly reasonable and civil post by people who merely disagreed with their comment. Automatic censorship would be overly interventionalist. I would not want to participate in a forum that auto-censored like that. Downvotes did their job – pushed the msg low on the page for reduced visibility.

Thanks for the explanation.

Sounds like an anti-feature because the general assumption would be that the mod of that channel intervened in that specific comment. Ideally it would say something like “removed in bulk cleanup of malicious user’s content” and link to whatever modlog might capture it.

Just a week ago I saw a comical shoplifting attempt. A guy had a bottle of spirits of some kind with the neck of it sticking out of his jacket. He just walked through the line parallel to the person being rung up. The cashier said “mister!” and he started jogging out. Two cashiers left their registers and bolted out the door after him. They caught up with him down the street. One of them collected the items he tried to jack, and the other cashier grabbed him by the collar and marched him back into the store and left my view… probably took him to a back room for some kind of processing.

I was surprised by a few things. I would not think cashiers would have the authority to search and detain someone. But I was more surprised by their energy and motivation. If they were overworked and underpaid, and did not give a shit about their employer, why the motivation to spot a shoplifter and chase them down the street, get physical, and perhaps even take some legal risk not having the power of the police?

Big business often implies unethical conduct. But not necessarily. If a business is big, it’s wise to look for unethical conduct and if something is found, then boycott. But being big in itself is insufficient for boycotts and theft. There are actually quite big competitors of Lidl which have significant ethical problems (Carrefour and Delhaize).

I’m a bit confused because what you originally described sounded like a way to disable autoplay. But your followup sounds more like blocking links to hosts.

If I were to run my own instance, blocking known autoplay hosts would work to the extent they are known, but then running my own instance would require having an unlimited connection. The autoplay problem is in part due to having a limited connection.

Appears so.

$ curl -i https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/8122d979-9b5a-4c2b-bced-a685a1e05030.jpeg
HTTP/2 200 
server: nginx
date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 11:55:17 GMT
content-type: image/jpeg
vary: Origin, Access-Control-Request-Method, Access-Control-Request-Headers
last-modified: Tue, 24 Oct 2023 08:09:58 GMT
cache-control: public, max-age=604800, immutable
access-control-expose-headers: accept-ranges, date, last-modified, content-type, cache-control, transfer-encoding
accept-ranges: bytes
referrer-policy: same-origin
x-content-type-options: nosniff
x-frame-options: DENY
x-xss-protection: 1; mode=block