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Cake day: June 12th, 2023

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  • I don’t think you’re arguing in bad faith, but I’m not going to engage with that because I don’t want to get lost in a semantic argument.

    Have you ever been bullied before? When you were young, did kids ever call you names? It sucked, right? Even in kindergarten you were smart enough to be hurt by it.

    Now, imagine the teacher started calling you mean names as well.

    And your parents.

    And everyone you love.

    And now imagine that you tried to carve out a small part of your life where you weren’t being called something horrible.

    Wouldn’t you have deserved that? Weren’t you smart enough to know you didn’t deserve to be called names?



  • Thanks a ton for this, it’s really helpful! I’ve been conflicted because intellectually I like things like “ol” or “ul” more than “iel” for the reason you described, but I’m not strong enough in French to be a good advocate for them. “Iel” feels easiest, right now.

    Would “elleux” replace all uses of third-person plural, or only those including non-binary people?

    Regarding your FYI: Sorry you’ve dealt with that, it’s so frustrating!! It’s so hard to know what approach will help people understand, and I can see why a lot of people don’t bother. Thanks for working to make things better :)


  • Thank you SO much for your answers here! And for writing that awesome Wikipedia page, which I somehow hadn’t seen before. A few follow up questions, if you don’t mind:

    1. I found a dropdown somewhere with [iel/iel/iel]. This is a mistake, right? “Je iel connais” feels wrong. It should be something like “Je lae connais”?
    2. You may have answered this already, but what’s a good way to present my pronouns that says "I prefer non-binary, but I don’t want to torture you so feel free to use il or elle? Something like [iel ou il, lui, le]? Useful point about accusative being unneccessary, but I’m in a situation where other people are adding it so I think I probably need to include it…



  • The concept of pornographic memory is hilarious without bounds. Like, you experience moments normally, but the second you try to recall them everything is sexy and two-dimensional.

    You go for an appointment and are upset that everyone isn’t naked like you remember from last time.

    You try to remember the steps for baking bread, and you can’t figure out how you ever managed to do it without getting flour EVERYWHERE.

    You’re constantly perplexed by movie age ratings. Kids are allowed to see THAT?!