In the US context, the founding of public libraries were most famously and substantially supported by Carnegie. A man of “crime and robbery” if there ever was one. When you hear “philanthropist” think “tax evasion”. Not to mention how he came into possession of all that loot in the first place.

I agree with the author’s point broadly but it’s not well made.

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la lutte continue

a lot of folks are going to make some drivel up about how they’re preserving history or whatever as they don’t even adhere to basic archive standards and their entire collection is coincidentally only stuff they like lol

history will never forget joe rogan, the family guy, nirvana, playboy magazine, zelda, 4chan etc thanks to these heroic amateur archivists… lol not exactly representative of the plurality of human creativity

around the edges of the amateurs and within institutions they support like archive.org there is more room to value the diversity of human creation. I hope there would be more infusion of democracy and valuing of materials not of interest to white men.

Answer 1:

with an old forum like running phpbb, it doesn’t matter to the user what the site is running. if it works, it works.

with the fediverse, because it is interacting with other instances in a way forums never even conceived of, it is really important to the end user what software is running. the software is center stage.

Answer 2:

The blossoming of the threadiverse in the past 6 months has prompted/necessitated the creation of a lot of “general purpose” domains.

Your examples are bookclub.phpbulletin.com and metalheads.vbulletin.net. But most lemmy instances are not themed around literature or music or anything else. More apt example would have been phpbbtalk.io or chatvbulletin.xyz. Such sites did start back in the day. But in the absence of federation they were not likely to cohere. So you don’t remember them, if you ever found them in the first place.

It is a very (the most?) common reason for downvoting and if you force people to chose a reason but don’t include it, they will just lie and the whole exercise will be rendered pointless.

And you know even though it’s not your personal preference, I think there are situations where it’s really just helpful to know “a lot of people agree” or “a lot of people disagree”. Not everything is about having a long debate with many sides. Sometimes the most popular thing is the best thing and the least popular is that way for a reason. Or it can provide useful context to understand the comments. Like if I am posting to ask advice about how to fix something and several options are presented but one of them has 5x the upvotes, I am thinking that might be the best one.

And it can tell you about the community. Like if I go into a community and I see someone says something nasty/dangerous/stupid and it has a similar votecount to other comments, I would think “I guess that sort of thing is acceptable here”. Whereas if I see it has lots of downvotes I might think “this comment is not representative of the general community here”. Voting based on like/dislike allows the community to express approval/disapproval when things don’t meet the threshold of moderator action; especially in very permissive communities where mods do not wish to take a heavy hand.

Further more, agree/disagree votes cut down on identical “me too” type comments. They give people a way to show approval without needing to make a comment and sometimes that is appropriate.

I guess you could use that to make your own private community?

Should still include “i dont like it” as a reason

Tbh i thinknthroaways are a better solution. “Hiding” stuff selectively can never 100% work.

The reason i prefered reddit to all the other big socials was how easy pseudonynous activity is. No “real name policy” BS. threadiverse has the same feature so i like it too.

IUDs are hormonal

nope

edit: maybe you are thinking of an IUS

if you are a heterosexual, or may at any time in the future have penis-in-vagina type sex, you should learn a little bit more about contraception. that is absolutely not how any IUD works.

as long as you get the right one that can be flashed.

IME most pixels available on the secondary market are bootloader locked.

I have been on lots of old forums too. That is irrelevant to this thread. This thread is about the ability to investigate the typos on the old forum posts. How often are you on some phpBB site thinking “this would be so much better if I could see what incorrect information was edited out in 2009.”? Nobody fucking cares.

And for the curious, but ultimately too lazy to click, there is the top 10ish at this moment.

1. Support for grouping communities / multi-communities 👍 184
2. Post tags 👍 91
3. Allow instance migration for communities and users 👍 72
4. Instance agnostic links 👍 63
5. User Flair Feature 👍 44
6. Dynamically subscribe to other instances communities 👍 26
7. OAuth (2.0) 👍 25
8. Add community privacy oriented settings

https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/930215

👍 24
9. Co-hosting communities across instances (e.g. “sharding”) 👍 22
10. Add native support for polls 👍 19
11. Local only community 👍 18
12. No ARM Dockerfile available 👍 18

Don’t forget to look at a similar list of ✅ closed issues.

yo this isn’t the government.

You seem to be wanting a platform on which to conduct official, auditable conversations which are subject to accountability in the form of total mutual surveillance. For some reason pinning these hopes to a random project with a sewer rat for a mascot.

The internet has been going on for like 50 years now, people have been pulling all manner of flame war shenanigans and this has like never been a significant problem. Because if a conversation is being watched by a lot of people, there are always others who saw the original post who can corroborate the change. And if it isn’t, who the fuck cares? Like I said to OP, if you are getting into a lot of petty flame wars and feel you need this sort of thing, learn to take a screen shot or use some of the other many client side or 3rd party tools available just for this kind of suspicion. For the most part it is some kind of online urban legend tho. Plenty of people are saying all kinds of stupid bullshit online, no need for others to plot and plan to trick them into doing so. Whoever is looking to find stupid bullshit can find it without resorting to trickery, in any variety they choose.

I actually don’t think it is required to trust people on a forum in the way you suggest.

If I was in what I perceived to be a really high stakes discussion (read: flamewar) where I was worried about this, I would take my own measures to ensure I could “trust” the other parties. I would save my own copies locally. Reddit RES had a button you could add client side for just this kind of petty bullshit. If you really want the feature, implement it in your browser/device.

Really though friend, try to have a bit of a sense of humor and distance from your online posting and interactions with unknown people. If someone is going to such lengths as to edit their post so it looks like you are responding to something else to make you look bad, it is either: a) a boring joke, or b) they are really pathetic and sad trying to sabotage you. Either way, it’s not the end of the world. If it sticks in your craw, you can just go edit your comment to say “edit: the comment to which I am replied was substantially edited after I posted so what I said no longer applies”. You can either delete what you said, or correct it, or leave it as-is with a caveat.

also some people did learn english (or whatever language is being used) yesterday and they might notice something confusing about their post after creating it… why let it persist

To draw attention to an edit, for example to correct an erroneous statement, use a combination of strikethrough and bold (or italic if more appropriate):

Joe Hill, who wrote songs about union organizing, was framed and hung executed by firing squad by the state of Utah in 1915.

Joe Hill, who wrote songs about union organizing, was framed and ~~hung~~ **executed by firing squad** by the state of Utah in 1915.

increased hosting costs

Should be minimal since it’s text. In fact, a lot of my edits reduce posts since I use it to add an edit that I would’ve needed to post in multiple sub-threads.

If you make a post which is 1000 chars in length, then you edit it to be only 800 chars, the 1000 chars still need to be stored. And federated and everything. That is the actual idea being presented here. It might not be a total of 1000+800=1800 chars because there are clever ways of compressing stuff, but it is still >1000 and certainly >800. And as @fartsparkles also pointed out you need to track meta data for each edit in addition to the text.

It doesn’t cause clutter in Wikipedia, so it’s not inherently a poor UX choice.

Interesting comparison. Wikipedia has a very robust system for tracking changes, because it is a core feature of the project. It is a collection of collaboratively edited documents. Since that’s the whole idea of the project, they have rules, software, code, humans, robots, meetings, arguments, computers, etc to manage it because it is really complicated.

Sometimes, it is too much and they just wipe it away https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Selective_deletion

Threadiverse is not a collaboratively edited collection of documents so why introduce that? There is no compelling argument presented.

Also mentioned is git, which like wikipedia is primarily a tool for collaborative editing. It also has the ability to permanently remove: https://git-scm.com/docs/git-filter-branch Not to mention using git is a very specialized skill primarily attained through formal education and employment.

Both wikimedia and git are known as very complicated to use pieces of software which take years of practice to be good at. Both have their own subcultures. They have to be like this because they are trying to accomplish a complicated task, which is to allow large number of people to collaborate together. I think compare/contrasting these to threadiverse does a great deal to show what actually happens when you need to have changetracking like this and how difficult it is to design properly in such a way that it can be easily used by a common person without significant study.

better done on the client side with a browser extension

or fuck it, install a keylogger on yourself