Marmelades can’t be made from carrots in the EU, we have the Brits to thank for that who insisted that the term is restricted to citrus fruit, the rest is jam. Especially nuts because the term derives from Portuguese “marmelada”, quince mush, and quinces are definitely not citrus fruit.
Speaking of the Portuguese yes they gave us that classification of carrots as fruits so they didn’t have to call their stuff “carrot spread” or something. Noone else on the continent cares, it doesn’t have any impact on anything else, and next time definitions are re-done they might just leave out the “has to be fruit” part in the definition of jam, or “fruits, or vegetables traditionally used for jam, or with sufficient fruit-like character”.
I guess some lines have to be drawn though otherwise Nutella is going to start calling itself hazelnut jam.
In reality it really does not matter and the classification is somewhat arbitrary. Just think about adding it to a fruit salad. Would you do it? Then it’s a fruit.
To add to this, vegetable is a culinary term and not a scientific term. Whereas, fruit can be both. Tomatoes are scientifically a fruit, but generally not from a culinary perspective.
This is precisely it: Tomatoes can be sweet enough to be a fruit, they can be acidic enough to be a fruit, but they’re definitely too umami to be fruit.
Next thing people are going to insist on, wilfully ignoring the differences in taxonomy, is that peppercorns are fruit. A stone fruit, just like cherries or peaches.
I once saw a little blurb at a sandwich shop stating that tomatoes are fruit, but if you pair them on a sandwich with jalapenos, you’re getting both fruits and vegetables. I demand better scientific accuracy in restaurant marketing signs.
Very much so. Bell peppers and jalapenos are fruits from different strains of capsicum annuum. Biologists apparently don’t agree on whether all chilli/paprika stuff is capsicum annuum, what’s for sure is that they’re all very closely related.
tomatoes are fruits that are often used as vegetables and are botanically classified as berries*
*according to wikipedia and my interpretation of it
Intelligence is knowing that tomatoes are a fruit. Wisdom is knowing that they don’t go into a fruit salad.
Charisma is selling salsa as a tomato based fruit salad
Strength is EAT MY DAMN FRUIT SALAD OR I’LL SMASH YOUR FACE IN.
What if you soak them in high fructose corn syrup first?
Then it’s ketchup
Rules are meant to be broken.
Tomatoes are only fruits in a biological sense, vegetable is a culinary term so it makes no sense to mix them up.
I prefer just calling everything I eat the flesh of whatever it came from. Tomato? Flesh. Lettuce? Flesh. People? Flesh.
My favorites are flesh fries
And if you ate light…
My understanding is that the term vegetable is actually a political term, meaning it is categorized as a vegetable for tax reasons.
Vegetables are taxed lower than fruits.
In the EU, carrots are classified as a fruit because otherwise, marmalades made with carrots would be illegal.
Maybe they should be illegal?
Marmelades can’t be made from carrots in the EU, we have the Brits to thank for that who insisted that the term is restricted to citrus fruit, the rest is jam. Especially nuts because the term derives from Portuguese “marmelada”, quince mush, and quinces are definitely not citrus fruit.
Speaking of the Portuguese yes they gave us that classification of carrots as fruits so they didn’t have to call their stuff “carrot spread” or something. Noone else on the continent cares, it doesn’t have any impact on anything else, and next time definitions are re-done they might just leave out the “has to be fruit” part in the definition of jam, or “fruits, or vegetables traditionally used for jam, or with sufficient fruit-like character”.
I guess some lines have to be drawn though otherwise Nutella is going to start calling itself hazelnut jam.
I mixed them up for the joke since the phrase sounds kinda absurd but it’s technically true
According to some YouTube short (maybe it was vsauce?): botanically, fruits are vegetables so tomatoes are vegetables in both classification systems
In reality it really does not matter and the classification is somewhat arbitrary. Just think about adding it to a fruit salad. Would you do it? Then it’s a fruit.
I’ve seen it too. I think it was Hank or John Green.
Vegetable has no meaning other than “part of a plant* we eat”, so basically all fruits are vegetables
*And in the case of mushrooms, fungi
To add to this, vegetable is a culinary term and not a scientific term. Whereas, fruit can be both. Tomatoes are scientifically a fruit, but generally not from a culinary perspective.
This is precisely it: Tomatoes can be sweet enough to be a fruit, they can be acidic enough to be a fruit, but they’re definitely too umami to be fruit.
Next thing people are going to insist on, wilfully ignoring the differences in taxonomy, is that peppercorns are fruit. A stone fruit, just like cherries or peaches.
I once saw a little blurb at a sandwich shop stating that tomatoes are fruit, but if you pair them on a sandwich with jalapenos, you’re getting both fruits and vegetables. I demand better scientific accuracy in restaurant marketing signs.
Now I wonder if jalapenos are fruit too (scientifically)
Very much so. Bell peppers and jalapenos are fruits from different strains of capsicum annuum. Biologists apparently don’t agree on whether all chilli/paprika stuff is capsicum annuum, what’s for sure is that they’re all very closely related.
Technically, according to the definition of a fruit, the cucumber is also a fruit, so yes, the tomato/cucumber salad is a fruid salad.