I’ve been told that the stuff isn’t actually plastic, but rather clear cellulose, and can in a pinch be used as a wrap to roll a joint. Yes clear cellulose papers do exist, but you think I’d actually trust smoking cheese wrapping stuff? Hell no!
Regardless, after hearing that years ago, I did try burning a cheese wrap after that, and much to my surprise the wrap didn’t melt like plastic, it burned like paper.
I just got done trying it again, with a different brand of cheese, and yeah this one burned and melted like plastic. ☹️
I guess different cheese makers use different wrapping material, but either way, if someone suggests rolling a joint in cheese wrap, just say NO!
You are a modern day Magellan, never change
You can’t just drop a thesis like that without telling us what the good brand was my guy :(
LMFAO! I hear ya there!
Sorry to say that I don’t remember what brand of cheese it was the first time I tried that years ago, but I can tell you what brand not to use as I just basically confirmed they use plastic wrap, Great Value.
I never did try rolling or smoking a joint with either test though. Being naturally skeptical about the random advice, I only tested just burning the wrap by itself. Weed costs too much to waste on experiments ya know haha!
I can tell you what brand not to use as I just basically confirmed they use plastic wrap, Great Value
Wal-Mart’s store brand being shit doesn’t surprise me in the slightest.
Of course it was Walmart’s store brand
Indeed, what else should we expect? ☹️
I can help you on that.
The brand is Trip. It works alright (both for rolling and smoking), but there are better paper (e.g. Raw).
I’d consider it as mostly gimmick. Again, not a bad product overall, tho.
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Upvoted for username haha! Good luck, test first…
I have clear rolling papers and they’re a cool gimmick but not at all practical for everyday use. Harder to roll and doesn’t stick to itself as well.
They also don’t seem to burn nearly as well. IME they always needed to be relit multiple times.
I wonder if there’s any correlation with cheese wrapper joints and strains named cheese.
I dunno how things are today, but not too many years ago if you searched Google Images for blue cheese, some of the images it would bring up would actually be nuggets of weed haha!
I’ve been told that the stuff isn’t actually plastic,
Some even claim this stuff is cheese
I knew it wasn’t cheese! Cellulose!
notin America
I got a milkshake a while back, in a plastic container, with a plastic lid, for some reason it also came with a plastic spoon, and a paper straw, since they are cutting down on plastics…
>go to mcdonald’s
>order hot cakes and a large orange juice
>receive hot cakes in plastic container, with six individually plastic wrapped teaspoons of butter and a plastic tub of high fructose corn syrup and a large plastic cup of orange juice
>throw away plastic straw
>pull out reusable metal straw
>I’m saving the environment one breakfast at a time
Ah the, “I’ll have a diet coke with this Big Mag, Cheesecake bites, large French Fries” mindset.
Ha ha in France they just stopped giving you straws. The paper cup for the drinks just said on it something like "To drink, remove lid and lift cup. You’re not an infant " lol
Now they have those reusable cups and fry holders, which are suspiciously smaller than the paper ones
Only thing I noticed that was single use plastic was the little tub of sauce
"To drink, remove lid and lift cup. You’re not an infant "
Based as fuck.
I know this probably isn’t the best place, but I really hate the way paper straws feel, but I also hate being handed a any straw when I can just drink straight from the cup anyway.
It’s why the EU voted in regulations today against single use packaging despite howls of protest from the fast food industry.
really? cool!
In my community, most of the lids are biodegradable. Still not great (require an industrial composter), but at least if it is left out, it does breakdown somewhat faster than “never”
I mean there was some joke libertarian candidate that literally ran under the slogan “Make America Grate Again” claiming that he would outlaw sliced and shredded cheeses to make America embrace its graters and its grating roots.
I bought a rotary grater about two years ago thanks to a post on Reddit and I rarely ever buy sliced cheese anymore, if I do it’s the kind that comes in one pack with parchment paper in between the slices.
How is clamping down on the freedom companies have to make plastic cheese, and the freedom for people to buy it… Libertarian?
Isn’t that pretty authoritarian?
No no, you see, it’s because libertarians are dumb
They are tho
Remember when fruit stickers used to be paper and biodegradable? Now they’re all fucking plastic because they need their logo to be shinier I guess.
Meh, I hate stickers.
Stickers on fruit would make me pick another variety.
That’s because all you absolute fucking babies are still crying they took your plastic straw away.
The reason we don’t have sensible climate conversations leading to real action is because the SLIGHTEST thing anyone suggests and you fucking scream your toddler heads off for years!
Many modern humans are a bunch of entitled little shits and it applies across the political spectrum.
I strongly believe every person needs to experience serious adversity at some point - homelessness, joblessness, food insecurity, chronic health issues, or chronic pain. I have had most of the above (and still have some, yay chronic health issues) and that made me a better person by giving me perspective. I don’t give a shit about losing plastic straws; on the contrary, I welcome their loss, they’re stupid and polluting. I can walk and I have a warm place to sleep at night, losses like plastic straws seem as trivial as they truly are.
All the best people I know went through some shit or are empathetic enough to understand what it’s like. The worst people I know either were protected from adversity, lack the empathy to learn from others, or went through an adverse situation but didn’t have the tools to properly work through it so it made them worse.
Uh… Yeah… I’ve experienced homelessness throughout my teenage years and… Uh… It really makes the things “normal” people complain about or stress over seem small and insignificant.
Same here and seriously. It’s not that I disagree that whatever is bothering them is bothersome, it’s usually just something I wouldn’t notice.
Like people cutting me off or speeding on the freeway. I really couldn’t care less as long as they’re not putting me directly in danger. I really just don’t notice but it drives my wife nuts. I’m just happy I’m only driving my car, not living in it.
Ask me how I know we’re not gonna reach our climate change reduction goals.
We’ll reach them once everyone dies in the hunger wars of 2088
For folks worried about plastic straws and bags and simple little shit, remind them what Lego is made of and how much of that is out there with the rest of the trash…
Don’t get me wrong, I love Lego, but still in the long run it’s just more of the plastic pollution problem. Of course this isn’t the only place they end up, but check this…
LEGO isn’t made to be thrown out. Plastic straws and bags are.
Just because it isn’t meant to be thrown out, doesn’t mean squat when people and families get evicted or homes demolished from disasters or whatever. We don’t live in an ideal world, shit happens, and when it does, your stuff gets thrown in the dumpsters and landfills, if not end up elsewhere.
Plastic is plastic. Humans lived for ages without the stuff, so plastic is not a necessity of life. Eventually it’s all gonna become pollution…
Neither is the Internet, computers, or smartphones, yet here you are…
I’ve almost never purchased electronics, I almost exclusively salvage flood damaged electronics and otherwise damaged electronics from the side of the road or dumpsters. Fuck off, I actually do my part. Do you?
Yet you still can’t live without it.
Yeah I do agree people are not willing to have these conversations, we live incredibly wasteful lives for no reason at all - yeah Lego is a fun toy but we don’t need it to last for ten thousand years, like let’s keep that stuff for special things and if we’re making models then keep some logs asside, cut them into the size pieces you want and use a knife or chissel to shape them.
Or depending on your local geology dig a hole, wash out the clay by swapping between buckets then let it dry until it’s the desired consistency and shape it into what you want to make - when you’re done you can just crumble it up and use it again, or if you really love it then you can fire it and keep it as long as you like, when you smash it up then it’ll all go back to soil.
But no people need to buy Disney licences Lego kits which they’ll probably keep in the box anyway because they don’t even want to play with them that just want to have them for a while then leave them in the soil for the next few millennia.
Dang, sorry for not being 100% on board with something that’ll make things worse for some disabled people while having an immeasurable impact on the climate
Or just don’t buy American cheese because it’s gross and fake.
I still think its odd that people call that american cheese. Like, do people in the USA really want their name attached to that stuff?
Forreal haha. I just call them Kraft Singles bc I refuse to acknowledge it as cheese.
I just call it processed cheese.
American cheese is the best cheese for a cheeseburger because it melts without splitting.
I always go for sharp cheddar instead which I feel is close if not better… or Bleu cheese, although that definitely is crumbly.
Just like the cheeseburger your mother could barely afford.
I have come full circle. I loved processed American cheese food (pacf) when I was a kid because I was a kid. Then I got into fancy sliced cheeses like cheddar and Gouda. But they don’t melt as nicely! So now back to pacf for burgers and melts because it is the best ingredient for that job.
Isn’t the cheese pictured Chester, a product from the UK?
The name brand in the US is Kraft Singles, but at least here that type of orange cheese is just referred to as American regardless of brand
I’ve never heard of Chester cheese. There’s Cheshire cheese, but that’s quite crumbly and wouldn’t hold up to being packaged like this. You might also be thinking of cheddar. A genuine cheddar would be too brittle, but in modern marketing, cheddar is often shorthand for any homogenous, yellow cheese. So this stuff might be described as cheddar on the packet.
I think this stuff is more of a cheese-flavoured sauce, that they inject into the bags and leave to set. It’s more an invention of the convenience food industry, than any culinary tradition.
The British don’t know anything about food either.
It’s delicious and who cares if something is real or not?
Its also cheap, tho.
Here’s the weird thing about that:
Sargento Colby Jack at Walmart, 34.7 cents/ounce
Kraft Singles at 31.1 cents/ounce
That’s an egregious example because you can find better sliced cheese (store brand) for much cheaper than Sargento even, but still disturbing to see how expensive those singles really are.
Worth every cent
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Things can be related to more than one thing at a time. Banning single use plastics will be cheaper for corporations that offer them for free but it’s also better for the environment if they do not exist for decades or centuries after they’ve been used.
Two things: these are basically plastic anyways.
Also, the plastic straw thing was a PR move. Corporations don’t give any shits unless it will make money or lose them money.
I’m sure there was a nontrivial number of customers who either boycotted or threatened to boycott companies that didn’t switch. When their bottom line gets threatened like that, they take action to prevent revenue loss.
Nothing more. There’s way more problems with everything than plastic straws. My favorite PR move is how they convinced everyone that their cars are causing the majority of CO2 emissions from transit… Between that and airplanes, everyone is up in arms about the electrification of everything… Yet, the most major transport offenders are freight, and they have no plans or intention of changing their ways. I heard somewhere that if you were to have zero carbon emissions for your entire life, you would save the approximate amount that freight liners emit in a year, at most. I think a year is too long. I forget the exact figure.
They emit more CO2 than all the cars, and all the planes and everything else you could point to… Yet, I have yet to hear anyone tell me about it, either personally, or on the news or anything. Everyone seems oblivious to the facts. They latch on to these “issues” like straws and personal vehicle CO2 emissions which are trivial…
People saw that video of the sea turtle with the straw in its nose and, rightfully, got mad. If only they also got mad about microplastics being inside everyone and everything.
Public outrage from one, probably staged, viral video.
There’s a disturbing number of viral videos that are downright animal abuse against turtles just for views.
Good American cheese isn’t individually wrapped. Only the really cheap shit comes like that.
Good American cheese is the really cheap shit.
The whole point of American cheese is that it’s barely cheese and more like a delicious coagulated milk-stuff sheet.
Gourmet American Cheese is some 1%-er bullshit.
The good American cheese is not in fact “1%-er bullshit”. Have you gone to a restaurant like McDonalds? You have eaten the better stuff, which comes pre-stacked in a large block. It is certainly much better.
The fact that you called McDonalds a “restaurant” has me cracking up, while yes, it technically is, no one goes there to have a nice sit down meal with the family.
Cheddar is so much better than American.
Have you gone to a restaurant like McDonalds? You have eaten the better stuff,
McDonald’s
the better stuff
L-O-L
Idk what that other guy is on but our grocery deli has American cheese they slice themselves, it’s not much more expensive than craft
Kraft American Pre-sliced bulk packs are the pinnacle of American Cheese. It’s actually diminishing returns anywhere after that.
Kind of depends. Vermont cheddar cheese is fantastic and very nice but if you looking for a good smash burger or juicy Lucy burger you have to use that crappy Kraft singles stuff for the proper melt. Sure you can get Kraft in a block of sliced cheese but I am rarely cooking for like 50-100 people, which these blocks come out of.
Kraft cornered the market for a stable cheese in the early 1900’s here in America that melts really nicely and has a long shelf life with Velveeta.
A fun short little history and company story is by the Company Man on YouTube https://youtu.be/Hp0uhC15RtI?si=JAPmRQztP7ee5eSU
But even Guga Foods on YouTube highly recommends using the crappy cheese over the fancy stuff
Most block cheeses with a good fat and moisture content will melt well when shredded off the block right before you intend to use it. The pre-shredded or pre-sliced stuff has additives like starch in and on it to stop it from sticking together in the package and melting during transit, which prevents a good melt. Get yourself a cheap rotary shredder from Amazon (they’re like $20, mine never stays clean because I use it like every other day) and see for yourself.
I think by Good American cheese they meant something more like this:
https://www.landolakes.com/products/cheese/deli-american/
It is very much a different thing than Kraft Singles, you can get however much or little of it (or various competitors) you want anyplace that has deli meats, and the per-pound cost is not that much more, last I checked.
Although some kinds of cheddar might be made in the US, I don’t think Vermont Cheddar is what anyone usually has in mind when they say “Deli American Cheese.”
I’ve had no problem getting a good melt on burgers with “good” American, FWIW.
I had no idea. Thanks!
No problem!
I actually really do like Cheddar in those scenarios sometimes, but I agree with the prior comment that it doesn’t melt as nicely. 🙂
Deli American is as close to Vermont Cheddar as Turkey is to Chicken haha
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Thank you for fighting the good fight. Kraft Singles make people not want to try deli-style American. It makes me sad.
Kraft has “Deluxe American” cheese slices that aren’t individually wrapped and have a better flavor and texture.
I have some in my fridge right now, actually, as it’s the most consistently stocked deli-style brand at my local market. I’m a fan!
Fake Plastic Cheese, good radiohead song.
I admit growing up pretty poor, these were considered a treat lol.
You may be remembering Radiohead a bit differently than the rest of us.
I don’t know what you’re talking about. The lyrics seem pretty clear about the song being about cheese.
Her green plastic ez-cheese can
For her fake Chinese cooking pan
In the fake cheesy earth
That she ate from a spray cheese can
In a town full of muenster plans
To get rid of American
It wears her out
It wears her out
It wears her out
It wears her out
She lives with a queso hand
A sliced American hand
That just crumbles and molds
He used to get pepper jack
For girls who want that jack
But American always wins
And it wears him out
It wears him out
It wears him out
It wears
She looks like the fake cheese
She tastes like the fake cheese
My fake plastic cheese
But I can’t help the feeling
I could chew through the sealing
If I just turn and taste
And it wears me out
It wears me out
It wears me out
It wears me out
And if it could be cheese you wanted
If it could be cheese you wanted
All the cheese
All the cheese
Poetry.
Considered the following:
The slices of cheese are analogous to each of our individual lives: it’s boring, manufactured, and there is a wrap of plastic which define us as individuals but keeps separate from one another. The only good aspect of American cheese is that it is designed for melting, so in essence, by removing the plastic barrier that keeps us separated, we, like the humble slices of American cheese, can melt and become part of something greater than our individual selves (like a burger or a grilled cheese).
Or as Karl Marx once said: Life is plastic, it’s fantastic.
I really want American cheese that is not wrapped in plastic. Kraft makes it but it costs more than double the plastic wrapped stuff. I’ve paid that price when times were plenty but they are no more.
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Gone are the days of being properly fed off a normal wage.
Can’t say I even find the ones individually wrapped appealing, cheaper or not. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s not even real cheese.
It’s “pasteurized processed American cheese product” according to the label.
Cheese product makes me think that there is so little actual cheese in it they can’t legally call it cheese.
My understanding is it is made from reconstituted powdered milk.
We store a lot of dairy products in caves throughout this country I have been told.
Just use Swiss Cheez, it’s spreadable. I don’t eat anything without it.
Are you okay?
Why the fuck didn’t Twizzlers capitalise on the non-plastic straw market?!
Have you ever tried to snort coke through a Twizzler?
'nuff said.
I dunno man, the whole point of using a Twizzler as a straw is that you eat it after…
Imagine if, instead of showing bling replacement teeth, rappers posed for photos with Twizzlers in their mouths. Craig Charles surely would have looked different.
Well, you do make a good point. Plus, there’s that much less evidence left behind. Snort on homie, you’re clearly more experienced than me… 👍
I just fucking love liquorice. Whether or not it tastes like bank notes makes no difference.
It’s when you take the morning rush to the office and smell a pang of bank notes that I start asking questions. That’s not cologne, yet some people wear it as such.
Craig Charles does crack though, fair warning if you ever end up in a green room with him.
Why can’t they make the straw out of the same thing that the inside of the cup is made out of? My cup isn’t disintegrating in seven minutes due to exposure to liquid.
This…So much thie…but red vines rather than twizzler. They have a much bigger hole.
Absolutely.
Although I imagine some sort of German engineered version, where the hole isn’t all that big but somehow maintains structural integrity yet significant flow rate.
The life we could’ve had if McDonalds didn’t dictate things.
where the hole isn’t all that big but somehow maintains structural integrity yet significant flow rate
Sorry, fluid mechanics doesn’t work that way.
I dunno man, I have a few German vapes protected by patents that seem to work alright. Their first patent expired a few years ago, however patents for their portable vapes won’t expire until 2035, but there’s surely some scope to make something transformative before then.
I’m not familiar enough with vapes (German or otherwise) to understand how they’re related to using Twizzlers as straws.
Because the vape I’m talking about has a trick heatsink inside that it uses to heat air up to the desired temperature, without massively restricting airflow.
I used to drink root beer out of the licorice red vines, those held up quite well. Though, the lart was around seven years ago. I haven’t seen blaok red vines in ages around these parts.
Have no idea if the red ones would have held up. Never liked those too much, heh, and other than root beer, birch beer, I’d drink coffee instead.
I’ve just realised why that stuff always tastes like plastic
Cheese like this always tastes gross.
This is not real cheese, it is american cheese.
For the record, good American cheese does exist. It’s just a blend of cheddar and Colby with some annatto for seasoning, instead of the extruded “cheese product” stuff in plastic wrappers.
Grilled cheese sandwiches would like a word with you
True those taste good, but they taste even better made with Havarti or Gouda
The reason single slice cheese is great for grilled cheese is due to the emulsifiers in it. Even if you use other cheese you want to throw a slice of that in there to bind it all together.
Or some other melting cheese like jack. For sure though American cheese or Velveeta are fantastic melting cheeses for a good cheese blend.
No thanks. I prefer actual cheese on my sandwich. Not this salt paste. flings the frisbee cheese back at you take this abomination away.
