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    They don’t. Congress with the President could but won’t.

    I’ve no illusions friend. Neither the Republicans nor the Neoliberals aka 90+ percent of Office holding Democrats have the slightest interest in helping anyone, only taking bribes and reinforcing their party’s power.

    This nation is over. Reaganomics saw to that and Citizens United dashed the last of the faintest of rational hopes for self-repair. This is just leftover momentum. This labor camp we call the US will eventually collapse under the weight of its own corruption, but until then, we suffer generationally with zero recourse.

    No one with any power, no one from the right families is coming to help their capital livestock. This exploitation machine is exactly what they wanted and spent decades lining pockets to achieve.

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      I hear you, and mostly agree with some of what you say. Though I take issue with the right families, those being the ones benefitting from the power. What I will point out is the gilded age, and how bad it was back then. Many of the same issues we have today, corruption, bribery, the net worth of the robber barons adjusted for inflation was probably about double the net worth of our current crop of scumbag billionaire villains.

      I don’t subscribe to the hopelessness, and I do believe we can end this second gilded age. I just don’t see the ability to do that with either political party’s leadership. We have to reject them both equally while recognizing exactly the issues you’re pointing out with regards to the power structure and inequality. That is essentially what happened when we ended the first gilded age.

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      This nation is over.

      IMO it’s better to phrase it as, “The economic system has already collapsed for the majority of Americans, and it’s getting worse. What will happen next?” Because it’s not like people will magically disappear overnight, it’s not like life is terrible for everyone all the time, and some things have improved over the last few decades.

      Some people want to say “If we don’t do X, the world will end.” or “We didn’t do X, and it all went to hell, and we’re permanently doomed.” Most of the time, though, end-of-the-world stances are oversimplifications.

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      No one with any power, no one from the right families is coming to help their capital livestock.

      That’s an interesting sentence right there. What does that even mean, the “right” families? Are you seriously expecting the people who created the problem to now help solve it?

      This exploitation machine is exactly what they wanted and spent decades lining pockets to achieve.

      No, of course you aren’t. But by God, let’s also not ask for help from the “wrong” families…

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        I meant internally right. Goes to the right country clubs. Is on the right museum boards. Is in the little owner’s club that starts with having a 9 figure net worth at absolute minimum.

        That’s what I meant by “right” it was a mocking term for the self-protecting, self-elevating wealth class made up of a few thousand of the right families that lord over all of us and believe they are where ultimate authority belongs, and have used their great wealth to secure generationally. This is their system, by their design, and they will continue to use their vast power to defend it.

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          Ah yes, if only one of those country club going billionaires would decide to use their power to try and come help us…

          Yeah, I think I’m just gonna let you stew and simmer on that one.

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            I’ve belabored the point that they won’t, have no reason to, literally created such conditions to begin with, and actively defend against any change to it.

            Do you have some sort of a point? If so speak it.

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              I do, but if I said it outright I would just be accused of a lack of empathy and intelligence, plus a whole lot of other things far worse than that, so I won’t.

              So if you didn’t get my broad hint, I’m not going to be upset, and if you do, like I said, perhaps take my advice to stew and simmer over it before posting a response in affect.

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                I don’t think you understood what they were saying, and I don’t think we understand what you’re saying. You could help by explaining.

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                    That’s okay, I can live with that.

                    Kind of selfish of you though to waste everyone’s time trying to interpret your secret messages.

                    Plus you shouldn’t be afraid, you should speak out, that’s what we’re supposed to be having here, conversations.

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                You’ve already clearly demonstrated a significant lack of intelligence, might as well be out with it and say what you want to say.