Sounds great in principle, but where are me and the other 60 houses down our terraced street with no off-street parking supposed to park our cars?
Yes, I’d love to live in the public transport utopia that’s just over the horizon, but right now, I need a car to get to and from work and I live in a house that was literally built before cars were a thing.
Again, I can only speak to our street but the vast majority of car owners make sure there’s ample room to get through. The issue is that there’s usually one or two assholes who ruin it for everyone, and those guys usually find out pretty quickly why it’s a bad idea to block the path.
For context: I drive, but I’ve also had two kids and therefore two pushchairs I’ve had to navigate along the pavement. My car also got totalled a few years ago by a delivery driver who drove into it whilst it was parked. Id rather it not be parked on the road/pavement but what choice do we have here?
Basically any city or town or village that was built before the invention of the car, and in the UK that’s basically everywhere. The house I live in was built before plumbing. God damn the road is narrow.
If we didn’t park on the curb no one would be able to get past. The other day an ambulance came up here, and it was a squeeze but it was fine so I don’t think it’s actually a problem.
Basically true for Bristol too. Barely any rail network (despite having two main stations), a terrible bus system under a monopoly, and often no choice but to drive if you want to keep your job.
We’ve also got some very tight roads, and terraced housing that isn’t really fit for purpose any more, especially outside of the main city.
“That’s your problem” is a terrible way to get people to support policy. These are real, valid concerns that many people simply can’t deal with without other systems in place that currently don’t exist.
This type of “fuck any gradual change, revolution now” is just armchair anarchy pushed by kids who don’t face financial pressure.
British streets were never built for the amount of cars we have today. I can see why parking half on/off is needed.
I live in a new estate where homes either have two spaces on their driveway or a parking space. People still park fully on the path. To the point if you was in a wheelchair you couldn’t get by. People also don’t use their allocated parking space and park outside their house on the footpath.
This. My ex has a separate garage with hardstanding in front of it 25m from her front door. The garage is full of shite and she parks in ‘her space’ outside her front door. She gets the arseache if someone else parks there as well.
Thing is, there is a Tesco Express at the end of the road and delivery lorries have taken her driver side wing mirror about three times.
Oh totally. I don’t have a car because I don’t have anywhere to park it, and can’t justify owning a personal vehicle when (bad) public transport and cycle paths are available.
Because of this I find people who expect public space to be given to them, to the detriment of other people, to be selfish.
Ya but your argument is also expecting public space to be given to you to the detriment of others. It’s a double edged sword.
“Park on a different street” literally just shifts the problem.
If a public parking lot was available then ya, totally feasible, but it’ll have to be big which then takes up the land from something else, again shifting the problem.
You’re getting upitty with someone who is concerned that knee-jerk public policy is going to have large, likely unplanned, detrimental effects on the citizens outside of just themselves.
“Park on a different street” literally just shifts the problem.
Actually I’m more going for “don’t have a car if you don’t have anywhere to put it”. I know it’s an unpopular opinion, but having a car is not a right and the sheer volume of them is to the detriment of the entire population.
Taking space used for cars and giving it to cyclist does actually make everyone’s life better, even drivers. You get less pollution, traffic, medical cost to the NHS, pedestrian deaths, and infrastructure costs.
So if I park on another street aren’t I just parking in someone else’s way? You’re just kicking the can down the road you’re not actually fixing the problem the fact that you don’t get that is insane
No it doesn’t it just annoys them. Have you actually met people like real members of the human race or they all just abstract numbers in your head because you know nothing about humans.
Sounds great in principle, but where are me and the other 60 houses down our terraced street with no off-street parking supposed to park our cars?
Yes, I’d love to live in the public transport utopia that’s just over the horizon, but right now, I need a car to get to and from work and I live in a house that was literally built before cars were a thing.
Again, I can only speak to our street but the vast majority of car owners make sure there’s ample room to get through. The issue is that there’s usually one or two assholes who ruin it for everyone, and those guys usually find out pretty quickly why it’s a bad idea to block the path.
For context: I drive, but I’ve also had two kids and therefore two pushchairs I’ve had to navigate along the pavement. My car also got totalled a few years ago by a delivery driver who drove into it whilst it was parked. Id rather it not be parked on the road/pavement but what choice do we have here?
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Basically any city or town or village that was built before the invention of the car, and in the UK that’s basically everywhere. The house I live in was built before plumbing. God damn the road is narrow.
If we didn’t park on the curb no one would be able to get past. The other day an ambulance came up here, and it was a squeeze but it was fine so I don’t think it’s actually a problem.
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Basically true for Bristol too. Barely any rail network (despite having two main stations), a terrible bus system under a monopoly, and often no choice but to drive if you want to keep your job.
We’ve also got some very tight roads, and terraced housing that isn’t really fit for purpose any more, especially outside of the main city.
It’s your problem to find somewhere to park. Maybe on another nearby street. Or buy/rent a dwelling with parking provided.
“That’s your problem” is a terrible way to get people to support policy. These are real, valid concerns that many people simply can’t deal with without other systems in place that currently don’t exist.
This type of “fuck any gradual change, revolution now” is just armchair anarchy pushed by kids who don’t face financial pressure.
British streets were never built for the amount of cars we have today. I can see why parking half on/off is needed.
I live in a new estate where homes either have two spaces on their driveway or a parking space. People still park fully on the path. To the point if you was in a wheelchair you couldn’t get by. People also don’t use their allocated parking space and park outside their house on the footpath.
This. My ex has a separate garage with hardstanding in front of it 25m from her front door. The garage is full of shite and she parks in ‘her space’ outside her front door. She gets the arseache if someone else parks there as well.
Thing is, there is a Tesco Express at the end of the road and delivery lorries have taken her driver side wing mirror about three times.
Still has to park in her space though.
Oh totally. I don’t have a car because I don’t have anywhere to park it, and can’t justify owning a personal vehicle when (bad) public transport and cycle paths are available.
Because of this I find people who expect public space to be given to them, to the detriment of other people, to be selfish.
Ya but your argument is also expecting public space to be given to you to the detriment of others. It’s a double edged sword.
“Park on a different street” literally just shifts the problem.
If a public parking lot was available then ya, totally feasible, but it’ll have to be big which then takes up the land from something else, again shifting the problem.
You’re getting upitty with someone who is concerned that knee-jerk public policy is going to have large, likely unplanned, detrimental effects on the citizens outside of just themselves.
Actually I’m more going for “don’t have a car if you don’t have anywhere to put it”. I know it’s an unpopular opinion, but having a car is not a right and the sheer volume of them is to the detriment of the entire population.
Taking space used for cars and giving it to cyclist does actually make everyone’s life better, even drivers. You get less pollution, traffic, medical cost to the NHS, pedestrian deaths, and infrastructure costs.
So if I park on another street aren’t I just parking in someone else’s way? You’re just kicking the can down the road you’re not actually fixing the problem the fact that you don’t get that is insane
Forcing people to park further away discourages them from purchasing a vehicle in the first place. Fewer cars is better for everyone.
No it doesn’t it just annoys them. Have you actually met people like real members of the human race or they all just abstract numbers in your head because you know nothing about humans.