Look, if anyone loves a bit of dark humor, that’s me. Not to mention how much I love horror stuff, horror is basically my favorite genre, but there are limits for me like for everyone else.

Just this day while scrolling on Google images I saw by accident a picture of that fucking pink cat girl from that one disgusting pedo ‘‘anime’’ on par with like Human Centipede and Serbian Film, I actively avoid that shit and just every now and then I am reminded of it’s existence, WHY, WHY WHY does someone have to do that and post it in the first place? Reminder that I’m the type who plays Outlast, FnaF or Resident Evil casually like it’s an Animal Crossing, not to mention the anime, horror movies(Saw included) and crime shows and stuff I like.

But there are still stuff I want to forget that exist, these include, that ‘‘anime’’(I hate to call that anime), Human Centipede, A Serbian Film, Coffin of incest game(forgot it’s name) and stuff like Terrifier movies and whatnot, you know basically worst of the worst. I know that stuff like that exist thanks to YT and while I have nothing against mentioning it and making a video on talking about how disgusting it is, which some of my favorite YouTubers did for the 2 aforementioned movies, I do have against it actively posting it and it popping on on completely unrelated stuff and unironically liking it. Like stuff like that is for Dark Web and shouldn’t be on the surface web at all.

Why does anyone feel the need to even mention shit like that, I’m pissed as fuck right now, my deranged cousin isn’t enough, I also have to deal with this. I’m so happy when I forget stuff like that exist only to be reminded by pure accident.

I’m sorry, I’m not thinking straight, I’m so pissed, I just need to talk to someone, maybe I will feel better…

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    I can only speak in defense of gory fictional medias; but I’m an active proponent of the splatterpunk genre, mostly because while I respect the classical horror concept of showing the monster, or showing the bloodbath as little as possible to make the viewer’s imagination connect the dots, I believe there’s just as much potential, if not more in showing it all, to gory, horrific excess.

    It’s like, ‘terror’ is knowing full well there’s something that shouldn’t be in your house, lurking just out of sight in the darkness of your hallway, watching you. ‘Horror’, is getting up and flicking the hallway light on to see an absolute charnel house made of the place; and then ‘terror again’ is knowing the thing that was just watching you from the hallway is not only already in your bedroom, but stalking you from the rear as you recoil from the gory spectacle in front of you.

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      Yeah I get that, but you can’t defend stuff like Serbian Film, Human Centipede, shit containing incest, rape etc.

      You know what I mean?

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        That’s why I put the delimiter of “fictional” there. Full disclosure; I couldn’t sit through the runlength of A Serbian Film, I only made it through the first Human Centipede movie before I had to put the entire series down; I found the examples you give overall distasteful and in service of pure shock horror-- but at the same time, I’d be a hypocrite to not defend their existence due to my beliefs regarding artistic expression. I’m against censorship in art first and foremost; and allowing the censorship of what I personally find to be ‘distasteful’ fiction to go by unopposed will just make it that much easier for the Majority for Media Morality to censor me when they finally get down to the mundane end of the slippery slope they’re building.

        I believe there is a duty to defend ‘distasteful’ fiction’s right to exist. I might not like what they produce-- hell, in some cases, I even outright hate it; but I defend to death their right to create it. I don’t want to live under a puritan’s watch. I don’t want to live to see a new Tipper Gore. If what you were talking about were honest-to-god snuff films, grossly-egregious SA evidence, and the like, you’d have all the leeway in the world to run with it; but you’re talking about fictions here to a Rob Zombie baby.

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          The thing is, this shit ain’t your average Rob Zombie movie(btw I like his music). You already know A Serbian Film so I don’t need to explain it, it was banned in like 15 different countries. About Human Centipede, I literally just heard about it from one of my favorite Creepypasta YouTubers who talked about both of those movies and I know everything there is to know about it from the trailer alone. Stuff like that is full on Dark Web shit, not to mention stuff with pedophilia, rape, incest etc. I don’t have problem with guts, gore etc, but this is just disgusting.

          If it exists, then it’s for Dark Web, not something that should be posted on surface internet unless it’s just talking about it. I mean some restrictions exist for a reason.

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      I see gore as artistic. I don’t like gore used in a purely horror manner. I like the exploration of flesh. I hate monsters being hidden because I want to appreciate the design. I hate suspense though and jumpscares, plus horrors generally don’t ever cater to my preference so I don’t watch them. I haven’t played it but I like the fleshiness of Scorn. It’s not fleshy enough for me tbh.

  • The rule of thumb is that us edgelords have a strong anti-establishment attitude, albeit with varying interpretations.

    This interpretation of anti-establishment mentality can range from me cringing when someone puts a TW for literally no reason to posting generic unfunny n-word memes to cringe ass “aEsThEtIc” memes to unconventional clothing habits to ppl who say the most shocking shit for comedy and then there’s folks like Leafy.

    This anti-establishment mentality should be a good indicator.

    I am more edgelord lite since most of it has toned down to be somewhat more palatable for left wing folks and because I’ve stopped with the anti-trans horseshit.

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      I just watched a few. Seems like the people making those are comrades.

      Episode 1 was extremely funny. Episode 2 was alright. Gonna see how the rest are.

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    just because something isnt to ur taste doesnt mean it should not exits. It does exists because someone thought it was worth making and as long as no one was hurt in the making of it why should u care. And i would guess the point of being edgy is just to be edgy to some people thats just cool.

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      It does exists because someone thought it was worth making

      Not agreeing that it justifies 100% of all what exists (there is a lot of edgy stuff that has little to no quality and is worth close to nothing), but it is a good point to make since media literacy has been going down for a while and some people have reached the point of believing that pieces of media commend reprehensible actions simply by depicting them. It is always important to wonder if the portrayal of something “edgy” in media has a reason behind it, and if it does, which one is it.

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    I have often wondered about the boundaries of horror art… or more precisely, the lack thereof.

    There is “tasteless” and there is “should probably be illegal”. I may be wrong and all art should be allowed and criticism should reign, I don’t know. But you mentioned Terrifier, a film that was marketed as the one making people vomit and pass out in movie theaters.

    I don’t see the benefit here… for anyone. I see cheap exploitation and majorly creatively bankrupt gimmicks.

    I, like you, am also no horror prude, and I sometimes even explicitly seek out gory films. I have a soft spot in my heart particularly for the V/H/S series, which are fictional representations of what are basically snuff films. They don’t make me vomit and cry and shit my pants and dream about clowns murdering me in my sleep, though. I prefer it that way, personally.

    Also fuck r@pe in horror movies. For every time it’s tastefully done, it’s done in the most degrading and unnecessary way possible 100 more times. Graphic depictions of sexual abuse almost always evoke in me disdain for the director or creator rather than any involved emotion regarding the film itself. I’m looking at you, “I Spit On Your Grave” and basically every other "r@pe revenge* film.

    I feel you, comrade.

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      Yeah, that’s exactly what I’m talking about, like as someone who watches Saw, most of the James Wan movies, 1980s horror movies, Alien and plays a lot of horror games, you know you someone messed it up when I even I say that content is absolutely disgusting.

      I also watch gory stuff but I’m disgusted by graphic sexual content and rape like you, not to mention stuff involving incest and shit like that. I mean Human Centipede, A Serbian Film, that stuff, It’s so disgusting.

      But i feel better know that there are people like me who understand me.

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    In all honesty and with all due respect: I know you from having seen you around here and having had one or two discussions with you in the past and you seem to engage a lot in outrage content and to react very strongly to it.

    I think your best way to put an end to your problem is to simply disengage with such content and stop frequenting the places where you can find it. In addition, being less exposed to it should IMO help you care less the next time you encounter it.

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      The problem is that I didn’t even engage in it in the first place, it was pure accident, I was literally looking something completely unrelated… But this ain’t cringe libs or other reactionaries I come across over and over again since I did keep coming back on r*ddit even if I don’t have account for like more than a year and half, not to mention YT comments and I do admit that that’s on me since I keep encountering it more or less by purpose.

      But that’s just cringe reactionaries, at this point I don’t even get that pissed while encountering them and forget about them fast, but this ain’t about reactionaries, I didn’t look for it.

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        Stop going to reddit and clean your YT preferences. The less you frequent places filled with content that pisses you off (even if mildly), the less you will be affected by situations like these.

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          I clean YT frequently and this wasn’t on YT or reddit. I didn’t encounter that type of content on reddit, just reactionaries but anyway I don’t go on reddit anymore that much unless it’s shitposting subs mostly devoid of reactionaries. This was on Google images while looking something completely unrelated, pure accident.

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              Yeah I said not that much like before, and I go to r/ShitLiberalsSay from time to time since it’s dunking on libs. Now I mostly take content for srs on YT and other places.

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                r/SLS is also pretty garbage in its takes on imperialism. Throwing your PC into the trash bin is a preferable option.