seriously
I remember when it had the opposite problem. “Today, we’re going to make a working fusion reactor out of an old HP laptop I found in my garage”, and everything is specific to that particular HP laptop.
Heh, I remember I had stopped following Primitive technology for a while because he stopped uploading videos. Then one day I decided to check on the channel and bloody hell the guy was refining iron in a mud hut with a clay blast furnace and forging an iron knife/arrow head…
That’s the same problem…
Totally different price scale.
Don’t care. I will watch every second of every build project Adam Savage does in his shop.
The wacky thing about Adam Savage’s shop is that he doesn’t have a multimillion dollar CNC machine, but he has every single ordinary tool made by man. The dude has a run of the mill engine lathe and 4,000 pounds of jigs and tooling for it, plus more hardware than the average Fastenal.
The real value in his shop is all the various materials he has squirreled away after decades.
His materials stockpile is the stuff of dreams.
Adam savage is a godsend, his build tend to use the tool that’s either inexpensive or it can be replicated with another tools. His philosophy is always “hiding the crime” so the imperfections is always either out of view or is part of the charm. Perfect role model for a maker just starting out.
His machines aren’t that insane. He has a machine lathe and a mill, but neither is CNC.
Watch Stuff Made Here. He has CNC mills and routers, powder 3D printers, a freaking 5 axis water jet, and more.
Adam just got a 3D printer, it took him until late last year to get one.
Granted his passion is the process to make things and a 3D printer just skips all of that to make something inferior in 1:100th the time and effort, but you would think a gadget lover like him would have had one for years. I can’t wait to see what he does with it.
There is no world in which that machine is under a million dollars.
These machines are absolutely under a million dollars. You can even buy used ones right now for pennies on the dollar because a shitload of American metal shops just went out of business.
Pennies on the dollar? I don’t necessarily doubt you, but where do I get that machine for less than 10 grand?
There’s a few on here that I saw for less than $40,000.
https://cncmachines.com/cnc-mill/for-sale/1
Edit: not that specific machine.
I don’t understand the point of hiding the price but then having an ai bot email it when someone asks it in the comments. Just list the damn price
Prevents bots scraping the site and either buying it all themselves or getting listed elsewhere.
I can understand that when the site is selling sneakers or a PS3 but is there a big market on scalping CNC machines? Plus I figure it would be trivial to create a bot that would create a comment on each post asking for the price so the sites bot sends the email with the price.
Makes it harder for your competitors to undercut you in prices. Not impossible, just harder. Most locks are just to make something more difficult so you give up. They aren’t impossible.
Another likely reason is that the price varies based on material/labor cost and they don’t want a set price being advertised. The price probably dynamically varies.
Hmm, that site has a very different definition of “mini mill” than I do.
Ahhh just a turn of phrase. Not literally pennies on the dollar, but very cheap compared to new!
Literally, on CNCmachines.com they sell 5 axis milling machines for as low as 50K i’ve seen. There’s also tons of auctions on cnc machines due to all of the shops closing like I said.
How much do you suppose it costs to move and set up one of these babies in a new location? I bet the sellers would be happy to have a buyer just get it out of their building.
…if that’s true I’m gonna go talk to my boss. We need a CNC.
Do it! There are tons of machines to be had, you don’t have to buy brand new!
This isn’t even close to a million dollar machine. Those are all at least 6 axis mill turns with full enclosures and insane software packages in the control.
Hear me out: what if you made it entirely from parts created by a larger CNC machine?
It would be very very impressive if your CNC machine can produce and assemble electric motors, wiring and circuit boards from raw materials. But then it would not be a CNC machine anymore.
Sure it could. A 5 axis CNC head could mill out the shape for a motor and be given a tool that spools out wire… It wouldn’t be easy, but it could build a motor with just that
It could also be given a head to solder circuit boards
CNC (computer numerical control) refers to the control systems rather than the act of milling materials, a 3D printer is a sub category of CNC. They can even use the same control boards.
You also usually process materials before putting them in - they’re good at detail work, but if you start with a block of steel you’re going to lose a fortune changing out expensive heads (and take forever). So it’s fair to assume you’re not using raw materials
Self replicating CNC Machines. That’s not even a guy operating it, it’s 3 smaller CNC machines in a trench coat and hat
A trench coat made by a slightly bigger CNC machine.
It would be even more expensive!
Store sensitive documents?
I really appreciate it when they give the quicker option for using equipment, or a slower option if you don’t have like a hacksaw or drill press. I think DiyPerks does that?
Or I just watch the YouTube channel ‘Primitive Technology’ … of some young guy that goes into a jungle with nothing and starts building things with his bare hands.
I know it’s a set up situation and made for entertainment but I’m indigenous Canadian and my dad was a hunter trapper who was born in the wilderness in northern Ontario. In his prime in his 20s, I have lots of relatives who told me that dad would leave the community with a little pack, a knife and an axe in the autumn and come back after Christmas with a supply of furs to sell. Then head off and come back two or three times in the winter to deliver more furs. Then come back in the spring to live in town before going out again in the fall.
isn’t he like 30?
You see, there is this unwritten agreement between the creator and the viewer that they like stuff explained to them, but they don’t actually replicate anything shown in the video. At best, they harlf-arsedly order some materials and then never get to it.
I know i could totally do it, i just dont want to!
I feel personally attacked by this comment.
It’s the same contract we have with all cooking shows and food videos.
man you’re following the wrong channels then, there’s a good chance any food videos i watch will at least give me ideas for how to improve my own cooking
Some of us watch those videos to actually do stuff. I built a FPV racing drone from parts off BangGood with zero experience thanks to those YouTube DIY videos.
How to DIY X first just go to your 400 sq foot shed
Meanwhile, Mark Rober accidentally making a guided missile:
CNC machine
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So there’s where Empyrion got the design of their builders from.
I’m the weirdo that has a full cnc machine shop at home. I was a cnc machinist for 20 years, though. Brain fog from covid killed my ability to do it, though. I do miss it, because that is something I truly love doing.
Don’t push your limits!
If anyone needs an extra reminder for why covid is so terrible, here you go. That shit can fuck you up long term and the odds are not appealing.
Thanks.
I’m pretty sure it fucked my head up too. I’m certainly mentally slower now than I was before I had covid.
I forget words consistently, and it’s harder to structure my sentences. It sucks.
🫂 shit sucks.
I have the same problem with most DIY-videos as I don’t own a glue gun.
So buy one? It’s like $20
It’s like 2 dollars and some kisses lmfao glue gun is cheap as shit
The fancier one is like $6. The REALLY FANCY one is $12.
Look at Mr moneybags over here.
It’s honestly more of an arrogance thing. I have a nice drill, screws and different types of cold glue. I don’t want my projects to be anything like the crap I see in 5 Minute Crafts, so I avoid the tool. I know, it makes no sense, but so far I have never really needed a glue gun.
No way that thing only costs that much, right? I would think double.
Funny maymay though
Some Chinese mills are becoming really cheap for what they offer.
Just ran into this like a week ago with a wood working video. “How to flatten a board without a planer!”. The whole premise was that planers are expensive, so here a little trick for hobbyist… The next scene was them using a router table jig that’s like 5x more expensive then any planer.
I think they’re just trying to show off…or trying to monetize to pay for the damn thing, lol
Just FYI, you can get a hand planer for pretty cheap. I see them at the thrift store all the time for like $1.
I’ve got plenty of hand planers, but hand planing isnt something you’d want to do for a large piece if you don’t have a lot of time on your hands.
Plus the larger ones that you’d typically want to use for flattening a large board can run you more than an actual planer.
So have you found a solution for that? I’ve also run into the exact problem when i tried to flatten a board and all i can do after getting disappointed is using hand planner/electric hand planner 🤣
A possible solution in a pinch is to get an already flat surface, ideally larger than your board. Cover it in something that will transfer (ink, paint, toner etc). Rub the face of the board you want to flatten across your flat surface**. The** transfer substance will pass onto the high spot in your board. Scrape, chissle or sand the high spots down slightly.
Repeat this until most of your board is marked by the transfer substance. Your board will be mostly flat (or at least as flat as the reference surface).
This technique is used in metal work, but it’s labour intensive. For woodwork to achieve sufficient flatness planes are quicker and produce a better surface finish. But if you don’t have any large ones, this method might work if your desperate and don’t want to buy new tools.
For a less accurate flatness. Place the board on the flat surface and push in the board to fell the points in contact with the flat surface. Then take those parts down.
There’s a pretty easy solution if you have a decent plunging router with a good flattening bit head.
I set up two 2x6" along the length of my board I want to flatten, and then made a jig box for my router. The jig box is able to slide back and forth while resting across the 2x6, using the depth guide to keep the cuts at a level depth as you do your pass overs.
Hey! It’s TranscendentalEmpire’s YouTube experience all over again!
I mean, kinda? But a lot more basic wood working people already have access to a plunging router compared to a planer. One you can find new for 100 bucks or used for next to nothing, and the other is like 500 for a janky one.
Owning a router is a pretty standard purchase for anyone using power tools for woodworking, and if you don’t have one they’re pretty easy to buy for cheap on Craigslist.
The solution I have found is a sander and realizing you will never be perfect.
Look for the imperfections in the garbage they sell at the store. The bottom of your kitchen table. The inside of your kitchen cabinets. Those are the mistakes they’re trying to hide.
