During a game’s development, narrative consultants will be hired by studios to help with fleshing out or tweaking narrative elements, Kenney said. “Narrative consultants do not get final say,” Kenney reiterated. "It doesn’t get into the game if we [as the developer] don’t approve it.

“They consult. They do research, pitch ideas, give feedback, and maybe even write scripts. But none of that gets into the game unless the core dev team agrees with it. I’m going to keep saying that, because it’s key. Sweet Baby is not, nor is any consulting group, coming in to wreck games. They’re helping smooth out plots and deepen characters. They ease the burden on the core narrative team. They’re additive in every way.”

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    Good. They deserve the support. And unfortunately these companies have already dealt with harassment from these lunatics and can provide useful guidance on how to handle them.

    I really hope none of their staff are scared away from the industry, even though they have every right to be under the circumstances.

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    At this point I want more woke stuff in games just to bother the losers out of the hobby, or to get them used to it

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      Woke has always been around they just mad that its more common. Woke used to be sjw. And then politically correct. And other terms. And they all mean the same thing really. “to be aware of genocides, crimes against life, and injustices aginst others” if someone is against that. And they still say theyre for democracy i question their intellect. As well as their sanity. It doesnt seem that hard to understand analogies or metaphors but apparently a lot of people dont realize these things that anti politically correct and anti woke and stuff is against is literally general freedom. They dont seem to understand they are essentially saying “freedom for me but not for thee”.

      Ah well, will have to see how things go over the next 5+ years.

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        They dont seem to understand they are essentially saying “freedom for me but not for thee”.

        Around my parts, the anti-vax movement during the pandemic was basically a recruitment rally for the anti-trans movement which gained traction after pandemic restrictions were phased out.

        You’d think the people who spent two years chanting about freedom would have been on team freedom for minorities… nope! Lol

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        “Video games are worse when I see a dude in a wheelchair” is a take.

        Out of curiosity, do you work in the sanitation field? It’s clearly seen you’re a garbage person, just wondering if you’re a garbageperson as well.

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          Hey now, let’s not slander the fine people who take care of our refuse by lumping them in with this asshole.

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        The games are not worse for having woke stuff. To me, it’s no different from having guitars in the soundtrack.

        “I want guitars in game soundtracks because it annoys the people who want game soundtracks without guitars”.

        Sounds petty when you put it that way.

        Now replace “guitars” with something that’s objectively positive for society (e.g., inclusion), and any reasonable person would see that it’s ok.

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    I don’t get hate towards Sweet Baby Inc. Sure they consulted on some bad games but that is on the developers, not on them. They also consulted on Miles Morales and I loved the story in that game, even more than the story of 2018 game. Sweet Baby don’t deserve the hate.

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      Look at their ceo’s tweets. The project may be fine but the person that leads it and the way they deal with “anti-woke” crowds is essential. They could’ve easily ignored a few weirdos making a group but they decided to make a post promoting some report and continued it with racist and sexist comments. They 100% deserve the hate. The consultancy part isn’t the problem but the management is.

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      You don’t get it, they’re responsible for anything woke in all of these games, and clearly are responsible for the failure of Suicide Squad, due to all the wokeness that they orchestrated into every game they work on, because obviously they are a tool of the VCs that fund these games and therefore despite being a company with only double digits employees they control the entire games industry!

      I wish I was being sarcastic, this is literally the conspiracy theory that has all this hate swirling around this absolutely tiny dev company that specialises in subcontract writing tasks, dictated by the main dev…

      I’ll edit this comment when I find the article that goes over all the finer points.

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        Maybe you are correct. But, at the moment, I will stick the simplest explanation: it’s the producers of the concerned games that are incompetent, for now. Plus, I too hated how Batman was treated in Suicide Squad, but I would rather put the blame on Rocksteady for that instead of a tiny consultancy firm. Say even if they are responsible for this, the games

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          Yeah, sweet baby worked on like background speech of NPCs in Suicide Squad from what I understand.

          Say even if they are responsible for this, the games

          The games what? I’m dying here!

          Edit: I think you misunderstood what I was saying in my previous reply.

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    A Sweet Baby Inc co-founder said at GDC that they rely on fear to force developers to bring in DEI consultants. One of their founders also has had some spicy things to say about white males.

    Sweet Baby Inc is not likely responsible for AAA gaming largely being disappointing (I blame that on monetization and an unwillingness to innovate), but why would I want to support people who extort their way into business and hate me for my immutable characteristics?