I think one of the major benefits Lemmy has over Reddit is the intentional lack of user karma. I think, on balance, that entire dynamic was more harmful than helpful in the long run. Allowing voting on posts - but not aggregating votes across all comments and posts - still allows community sentiment to be expressed towards comments and conversations, but at the same time prevents the sort of popularity contest bullshit that became so prevalent on Reddit after its nascent years.
Would it be possible to have consistent karma on Lemmy? With instances being able to defederate from one another I thought that would be impossible unless there was some centralized karma counter.
Agreed. Karma was fun when Reddit began because it was truly useless internet points, but quickly fell off as soon as people got too serious about it. Buying/selling accounts with high karma, rules about only posting when you have a karma threshold, and of course the endgame now of buying stock if you have high enough karma. It’s just easier to throw away the whole concept here.
I never understood that… Why did people want karma points? Was it anything more than having ‘liked’ posts? There’s no real value. It’s like when my BIL used to give all the kids brownie points for getting salsa or reading a book.
Personal insecurity. The same reason why Instagram exists.
Engagement.
Users tend to like or dislike your comments and posts more, and post comments and reply back more often.
Compared to the millions of users on Reddit, I get more interaction on lemmy.
It’s the small world effect. Federation works better for our tribal human brains. We aren’t designed to be in a room with a million people all talking at once.
At first, the redundancy of having multiple communities on different instances covering the same topics bugged me, but it’s actually a good thing because it means you’re grouped into smaller groups of humans and your voice will get heard. Rather than a few comments dominating the conversation, there are simply more conversations.
At first, the redundancy of having multiple communities on different instances covering the same topics bugged me, but it’s actually a good thing because it means you’re grouped into smaller groups of humans and your voice will get heard. Rather than a few comments dominating the conversation, there are simply more conversations.
I like that take.
Except when i am subscribed to multiple similar communities so i can hear those voices. Then something happens, and i see multiple reposts of the same thing by multiple users over multiple communities.
I dont know what the middleground is.
But maybe reframing towards the “smaller voices get heard” and learning to accept “the occasional shouts as an unfortunate downside to an overall better scenario” will help me.
Absolutely, I get replies on almost all of my comments and usually multiple. The engagement is really great.
No ads
I’m curious, do you use this on mobile or are you talking about a desktop experience?
Personally I find more ads on something like Sync on mobile than I did on Reddit which I can block, but I am now forced to use the Reddit desktop site.
Voyager is where it’s at
The apps have ads? Bruh
Yeu, sync has ads because the developers of sync put ads into it.
Vanilla lemmy and jerboa certainly dont.
I can imagine some instance admins considering forking lemmy and putting in ads. At the moment, most instances are run as a hobby (for free) or by contributions (ie donations from members).
The development of lemmy was funded by a VC-type thing for a while, not sure if its still active. Otherwise, its also developed thanksnto contributionsMobile - Memmy for iPhone
Cheers.
Sync didn’t use ro have ads (or maybe I was blocking them successfully) but now it does. So will try something else as fuck ads.
Largely left leaning politics. As a Socialist, I like that the only arguments I get in are with communists and anarchists. We’re all in the same choir, just complaining about the set list.
Dude I have looked through your “Overview” you are not a socialist, a social democrat at best.
Also there is no real and practical difrence between Socialist and Communist, there are some very fun nit-picky definitions, but generally they are interchangeable.
Also few quick tests. Thoughts on Isn’treal Thoughts on the USSR Thoughts on the GDR Thoughts on the PRC Thoughts on Cuba Thoughts on Biden
What specific comments made you arrive to that conclusion?
First Interesting topic to not answer a single question I asked you.
Um lets start here, “As a Socialist … the only arguments I get in are with Communists and Anarchists” You split up the idea of Socialist and Communist, There that is for all practical purposes a Distinction without a difference, Redflag number 1.
Second your entire threat on Lemmygrad’s Shit Reactionaries say, first with a passionate defence of Biden , because a 2 party system, There is no diffrence between the parties, and generaly Socialists do not Endorse Biden, as he is a war criminal genocidal manach who does not care for the worker. Also all the benifits you listed, he is not doing- When someone tried to explain to you how it was rediculous you mocked them with a “call biden and demand things” and when someone else tried to explain you asked for a “Realistic solution” no understanding of what is being said.- In another explination, you said you could not read a post of that size and they only wanted to mock you, then when a shorter version was given you blocked them for being mean
You have quite a few posts on trump being Uniquly bad, he is not as I said before he is not significantly worse than Biden or really any other polition.
Lots of mentioning of voting like it changes anything
You have a post saying “as a socialist american I am jellious” when talking about healthcare, with the previously mentioned I think your understanding of socialism is that its healthcare, agian You would be better discribed as a Social Democrat
From this point I could for most of these look past them, or say its because you are new and need to learn, except with the second point you refuse to learn. By this point I am only a week back on your comments, and I look at the mod log
If we look at the modlog you have been banned from a comunity for saying that both sides of the Isn’treal genocide campan are bad and palistine is doing this for revenge, without any sort of historical understanding of the conflict
Called the Ukrane Russia conflict a holly war, I mean, one side is fighting to stop imperal expantion on its boarder (Russia) and the other is mostly Nazis who are doing a genocide (Ukraine)
Calling the PRESIDENT OF CHINA Pooh, This is 1) racist and 2) the PRC is a socialist nation, you can disagree with them but like, not be a total racist
And this is how I am concluding you are not a Socialist, I am sorry if this is too long for you and you refuse to read it, I did only stop after 7 days.
Look at its heart I agree with Dr.Che, If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine. Not only by your words, and I assume actions though I do not know you in real life, not a socialist, by the Standards set by the good doctor, that I also use, you are not a comrade of mine
Calling the PRESIDENT OF CHINA
I think you mean the dictator in charge of the dictatorship that is China.
the PRC is a socialist nation
Ha! It absolutely is not. It once was. Now there are far more socialist leaning countries in Europe.
I would bet money you’ve never stepped foot in the place and if you have you’ve never gotten to know a Chinese person well enough to learn the truth about the “socialist paradise” you’ve imagined up in your mind.
one side is fighting to stop imperal expantion on its boarder (Russia) and the other is mostly Nazis who are doing a genocide (Ukraine)
Are you talking about the dictator run, expansionist, imperialist invading side that did this in Chechnya and has committed a raft of well documented war crimes?
You really love those dictatorships. Go on off with your mad rantings.
Ahhh you followed me from the other comment to continue the argument after blocking someone. A true tankie. I understand now. I will be blocking you after this comment as well 😘
I didn’t realize those were questions. Punctuation, line breaks, and formatting is important. I didn’t know what “Isn’treal” was, but now I understand you mean “Israel,” you just don’t know how to spell it (that’s funny), and your autocorrect got it wrong.
Understanding that I don’t want the Republican Party in power to revert all of our progress back to the 1800s is not giving my support to Biden, it’s giving my vote to the only other viable party currently available in this shit show. He’s never had my primary vote. I preferred Bernie.
Skimming your complaints about me, I’ve come to realize you’ve taken quite a bit of my “overview” out of context, gotten several of my comments mixed up into other topics entirely, and made your mind up before you started.
Goodbye.
And on a post that asks what is the best thing on Lemmy we get an example of what is the worst
(an encounter with the verbose politik whose whole life evolves around finding people not deemed LEFT ENOUGH, aka: the lemmy versión of the neckbeard)
Unlike what seems like many, I kind of like not having so many people here. It means there’s a good chance comments and posts will be seen by others. Reddit was/is so populated that posting anything there was like speaking into a gaping void (of hatred, many bad -isms, and occasionally friendly helpful folks).
It’s kinda like the ham radio of the internet. I think. I’ve never used a ham radio, but it’s what I imagine it would be like. Lol
Over
Edit:
Or is “lol” lemmys equivalent of “over”?
LolLol.
Over.
Lol.
The idiots have not yet going the platform, so I can enjoy more interesting discussions.
It’s not Reddit.
come on down to lemmy town everyone.
at least we’re not reddit.
So we got that going for ourselves which is nice.
Working in the caddyshack. I use that all the time which makes me think you’re genX too. I think maybe the fediverse skews older because we’ve learned from our mistakes with prior social media.
Yet
No ads and small communies where i can run ibto people multiple times
Spez isn’t on here
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
@spez@sh.itjust.works
He’s waiting for one of the admins to commit suicide before he shows up and claims credit
God that’s so fucking funny.
Yea, as some people have said, the fediverse and the threadiverse feel much more organic.
Also, no tracking by shady companies is a big selling point
I can be on here a LOT less than other apps and not feel like I’m addicted. I jump on to post a couple of things and scroll for a few minutes and I feel like I’m good for the day.
yeah that’s probably because there’s not very much content here. which I admit is good because lack of content equals reduced addiction.
I think it’s also the fact that there’s not any algorithm that’s literally built to keep you doom scrolling.
Being able to check stuff once or twice a day without feeling like im missing out is nice. There are enough algorithms that i can get a slice of lemmy-life.
And there are enough algorithms to almost support my doomscrolling on a bad day
It is organically creating new, unique communities.
Such as?
The super dumb memes. I love that I can post a something that’s stupid even for a shitpost here and get cheered for it.
It’s not owned by a corporation and no single entity has full control over it.
Until some megacorp decides to start flooding it with AI shit like reddit, then we’re fucked.
Just defederate! That’s one of the main benefits! :D
What if they floor them all?
Any instance worth its salt would ban them. Absolute worst case scenarios, we would still have whitelisted instances or you could make your own.
It’s both a cool concept and an actual functioning community. For now, it also feels a bit like the rubes haven’t found it.
Well sorry to break it to you but I’m here now
I always knew you could do it, you just had to try.
